The first was made the subject of a popular BBC prog I recall, and each featured on tv and radio news and newspapers.
Thanks Venerable Botty Burp (the mostest). I'll google further.
I must confess that I mis-read the date (2004) and thought that this was May this year. My bad.
Regarding the face to face discussions between EH and HA, obviously these have broken down over the years. A shame as talk is far better than hate and bile.