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Re: Natural or Induced? Pickering to Wheeldale
Aug 27, 2012, 20:56
thesweetcheat wrote:
tiompan wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Plentiful Beaker pottery doesn't necessary mean thousands of migrant people though, does it? It only takes a few people to bring the ideas of the type of pottery and the method of cremation, which can then be adopted by the "indigenous" people. I'm not suggesting there was no movement of people, but I don't think there's any evidence to show that the existing pre-Beaker population of the south of England was replaced by an incoming "race".


We don't have the aDNA evidence from Britain ,yet , but we do for the continent and it shows an incursion of haplogroup R1b along with the beaker package providing the final dominant group that replaced much of the Neolithic haplogroups numerically , reflecting the present distribution . As R1b is dominant in Britain today as well as Europe , it could mean that only the pottery and culture came here and not the genes and the Neolithic population here were mainly R1b , but this seems very unlikely as R1b has been shown to have from the east and why should the Neolithic Brits avoid what the rest of Europe experienced and probably wanted .


Interesting stuff George, thanks. I'm obviously not up to date - must read less-dusty books! Be interesting to know if there are any parts of Britain where the R1b group is not dominant.


For me, the important bit is knowing when the 'change' occurred in GB and who was likely to be responsible for it. I like the Neolithic/Early Bronze and the shift from what appears to have been a nomadic way of life to that of farming and settlement and aligned with that the possible shift in beliefs. As with all these things though we seem to get a variation of dating and interpretations which prevents us from finally nailing it at this time.
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