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Re: drop bombs, not acid....
Oct 25, 2008, 12:18
handofdave wrote:
PMM, I just want to say that your contribution is always welcomed... at the end of the day WE ARE all on the same side.

There's plenty of room on that side for idealism, for pragmatism, for all the different approaches to the problems of the world.

I see our ability to argue and debate and even get a little pissed off as no impediment to our shared goals. This is what freedom of expression is all about... we can disagree on details, but ultimately we're on the same page.

The left is ultimately stronger than the right for this reason. We on the left balk at homogenization. We rebel against dogma. We embrace multiple points of view. We cherish intellect. And we reject the one-size-fits-all idea that to be strong we must all tune into the same channel.

To use biology as an analogy, we are stronger because we aren't a monoculture.

Without idealism, we'd be nowhere. Without pragmatic, strategic action, we'd be nowhere. We all need each other.

So don't get bummed out that we spat. This is healthy. That we spar and disagree shouldn't be a problem as long as we respect each other. And I do respect you.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep on rooting for Barack Obama to make history as the USA's first minority to take the White House. And then I'll continue to argue for change. Remember, an Obama win isn't the end of the story. It's the beginning of a new one.



I totally agree with your sentiments there. There is nothing like good debate, especially about the worlds pollitical situation. I too am rooting for Obama, as i see him as a much better alternative to the republicans. I still can't see how Bush was allowed to be in power in the first place, let alone two terms of office. When Obama gets in, I just hope he is allowed to implement many of his great idea's. I know I came across as quite vitriolic yesterday, but I do find myself banging me head against the wall when I see what polliticians get away with and the toadying of the media in it's wake. the bartering/trading organisations are growing throughout the world. In the uk there is the LETS system for a start and many more too. I would put thier address pages up but I don't know how to do that yet as I've only had this computer thing for a few weeks and am still learning how to use it, but if you google "lets" or "barter" you can find one near you. All sorts of people offering thier specific skills in return for what they need. It cuts out the need for money to exchange hands and everyone ends up happy, except the banks, hurrah!
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