apologies for the confusion! My frustration was directed toward the starter of the thread (who I do know and respect, and will happily discuss!!) who started this nonsense! (I was also in a bad mood this morning!!) As you know, there are lots of people whom dont / didnt go to the events that were described. I felt I had to give another view, thats all. As for 'why there', may I direct you to my previous post?