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Revolutions are celebrated when they are no longer dangerous
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Edited Sep 23, 2010, 09:59
Re: Revolutions are celebrated when they are no longer dangerous
Sep 23, 2010, 09:59
thesweetcheat wrote:
singingringingtree wrote:
IanB wrote:
I would say that Free Jazz and the 12 Tone serialists are still out on the frontiers of popular taste. Anything else in music that hasn't charmed the bourgeoisie and been used to sell some product or another?


i kida disagree on those 2 - i mean, coltrane, ayler, sun ra, ornette ... bet mojo has run pieces on them (or, in theory, it WOULD) ... cecil taylor may somehow just be a bit "other" for all this, mind

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More contenders (taking up on the serialism idea + running in that general direction) = Alvin Lucier, robert ashley, david tudor (i was jamming hois "neural synthesis" the other day ... jesus christ, it sstill sounds utterly alien + WTF), etc etc


Alvin Lucier, interesting. "I Am Sitting In A Room" takes some of Reich's earliest ideas ("It's Gonna Rain", etc) to a logical extreme. I agree with Ian though, I don't think Mojo etc have ever really paid more than lip service. I don't recall them doing anything about any of the minimalists. Even someone like Harold Budd is probably too un-rock for a Mojo piece(although again, hardly revolutionary either).


The minimalists are interesting because like the Serlialists some of their ideas have been adopted and turned into pablum by film score writers and house / chill out artists. Think of for example the American Beauty score which was then ripped by everyone in American tv all the way to the core of the mainstream - Desperate Housewives etc. So everyone gets a spoonful of Reich's Six Marimbas (for example) watered right down so it doesn't upset anyone. It's like sax players on rock records who dare to overblow for a few bars.
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