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Edited Nov 22, 2013, 10:53
Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 22, 2013, 09:05
tiompan wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
tjj wrote:
Some phenomena (if that is what ley lines are)


I'd say they aren't phenomena as a phenomenon is something that is manifest, not just claimed.

Looked at like that - that dowsing is only a phenomenon in waiting - complaints that people are wrong to want proof look silly. If dowsers want people to think dowsing is a real phenomenon it's up to them to come up with proof not shy away from it while still expecting to be taken seriously.


Another connection between the ley line and dowsing phenomenona is that both underwent a change in the late 60's .
Ley lines as originally described by Watkins were routes between A and B when A and B were almost anything old ,from, Neolithic monuments to Iron Age monuments to mediaval moats , churches of any period ,wells and even natural features . Incredibly contentious but nevertheless related to actual sites on the ground .
After the statistical likelihood , accuracy and obvious question of why choose straight lines for routes when the easiest way from A-B was a geometrical truth rarely found in the real world , Michell and others changed the leys to "lines of force " not tracks , but unrecordable entirely subjective straight lines of energy .
Dowsers took to this like ducks to water .If you have a problem proving finding you can find real stuff , then why not find stuff that is invisible and unrecordable .Thus they arrived at an excellent circular symbiotic relationship ,"we'll find your lines of force for you " , the landscape mystics wrote about them thus encouraging other dowsers to "find " the original and other lines .Who is to say that because your rods move , as they usually do in 90% of cases , that you haven't found a "ley" ?


Yes! I agree George - thank you for your two 'grounded' answers to my late night post yesterday (Nigel also). This is why I bother coming back to read the exchanges here as in between the 'personal stuff' I actually have learnt a lot. Most importantly, I have learnt to Question and not accept anything on face value just because it is written.
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