grufty, you are of course right on both particulars.
my ayttempt to get round the 'mysterious ways' argument was based around the fact that if we are to accept mysterious ways, then we cannot have any understanding of the nature of god. however as christians (it being the christian thrology i was arguing against) do not say, 'oo we can't understand god, so we better not even try talking about him', i used the same (il)logic to go 'bollox mate'.
(basically my argument was on he idea of heaven being a place of ever increasding happiness, when hapiness as a concept can only be meaningful if it exists in contrasts to its lack/opposite. so its impossible to be ever happier all the time. i was only a 2nd year undergrad at the time i'll point out!)
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