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grufty jim
grufty jim
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Re: Rubbish & chips
Aug 30, 2006, 10:57
Rhiannon wrote:
At the moment, if it's only a trial, why are the bugs necessary at all? If the lorries are weighing the bins, they could just do their statistics on the numbers without pinning down the bins to particular addresses. It does seem unnecessarily big-brotherish to stick bugs in people's bins without telling them.

As I understand it Rhiannon, the councils currently chipping bins are trialing the technology which will allow them to charge in the future. I fail to see how they could trial the technology without using the technology. Seems like an odd objection.

Rhiannon wrote:
And later, when you've informed them you're going to do it.. well that sounds great if you don't have to pay as much as the people downstairs that put out 5 bin bags every week. BUUT how do you stop people just dumping rubbish at the side of the road and not putting it in their bin? You wouldn't even need to sneak to a field or a layby. You could just put your bin bag randomly in the street.

Well, schemes such as this have been operated all over the world for years (I recall in America having to pay per bag, and here in Ireland we pay by weight - at least in my area). Certainly there were teething problems. And even today there are occasional stories of illegal dumping or the disposal of household waste in public bins. But by-and-large both we and the Americans have made it work (massively increased penalties for illegal dumping are just one tactic in that battle) as I'm sure have many other nations.

I'm afraid you'll have to demonstrate some compelling cultural reason why the British would be unwilling or incapable of taking responsibility for their own waste. Personally I think the opposite would be true... culturally the UK is far more compliant to authority than anywhere else I've lived (perhaps with the exception of Saudi Arabia). Though I'd be interested to hear why you believe it works elsewhere but wouldn't in the UK.
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