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tiompan

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Nov 09, 2013, 14:53

Littlestone wrote:

tiompan wrote:

Isn't it odd though that people can find all sorts of things without using any of the dowsing paraphernalia or claiming dowsing abilities and when asked to repeat the task manage to do so . Yet when asked to produce the goods dowsers either fail or back off as if it would be demeaning to do so .

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."

Attributed to Einstein.

Wot no mention of Horatio ?
Any chance of a reponse to the problems which are clearly not merely quantative ?

Earlier you commented "Equally, the (ultra) sceptics here might want to give subjects like dowsing the benefit of the doubt "

What the dowser proponents don’t seem to realise is that most sceptics did give dowsing the benefit of the doubt , long ago , and have found it failed and continued to fail ever since .The same can apply to ley lines .We seem to know the subject better than some proponents too e.g. your repetition of the usual uninvestigated misleading stuff found on dowsing web sites e.g. “ early woodcuts from China showing dowsing and a mid-sixteenth century English print showing miners looking for ore deposits. Elizabeth I had miners from Germany come to England to teach dowsing to their miners.” You didn’t respond to my earlier comments related to these .Have you seen the wood cut ? Does it look like a dowsing rod ? It depicts the Emperor Yu who was a civil engineer who controlled flooding by building dykes and dams and still recognised as an important hydrographer in China today ,he is holding an implement half way between a paddle and a tuning fork there is no reason to suggest it is a divining rod and he is certainly not recognised as a dowser . Likewise the oft mentioned De Re Metallica which actually berates diviners (would you like some more of the damning quotes ?) but the title continually gets copied and pasted into these web sites as if it to give some historical technical credence to the practice without anyone apparently bothering to have read the text .

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