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keith a
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Edited Dec 31, 2008, 00:03
Re: Prog Britannia
Dec 30, 2008, 23:45
IanB wrote:
Whatever the merits of your argument it would carry more weight if you had actually listened to more than a handful of the records you write about.

Marillion have made something in the region of 15 studio records of which maybe three sound like one line up of Genesis or another. The last of those was released in 1987.


Stop trying to be a smart arse, Ian. I used them as a reference as you were talking about VU type bands in the 80's - a period when Marillion were also rather popular.

Still, I've got no idea why I would search out more Marillion records when I've never liked a single track I've heard by them.

Surely a band earns the right to be investigated further. Even so, if I was at a mate's house and they put on a recent Marillion record I'd give it a fair listen. But if you actually rate those early records that I find so laughably bad that is all the evidence I need to know that we are never going to agree.

IanB wrote:

However while you insist on making it up as you go along



Yes. I'm so sorry that I'm not as all knowledgable as you so clearly are.

IanB wrote:

I can only assume your entire critical viewpoint is based on a set of hard-wired prejudices.


Well if you assume it then you are clearly right. You always are.

Ignoring the fact that I've said any number of times that I like Gentle Giant and have done since I was 15 of course.

If anyone is prejudiced here it's you with your rather odd obsession with perspiration rather than inspiration. I couldn't care less how many sides of vinyl Yes recorded in any given period. Personally I think it's more important whether the results are any good. If we all judged music like this no-one would be interested in collections of limited shelf like acts on compilations like Nuggets.


IanB wrote:

Which is fine. It just makes for a rather boring Spongebob and Patrick type debate. Pink. Yellow. Pink. Yellow etc.




Does your patronising nature come naturally or have you had to work as hard at it your beloved prog heroes have had to work at their musicianship?



IanB wrote:


I would of course argue in return that the Mary Chain sucked harder longer on the VU tit than Marillion ever did on Gabriel's but so much easier to go for the crowd pleasing jibe than actually listen to the music.



What crowd am I suppsed to be pleasing exactly?



IanB wrote:


Overall I think the problem is that I just can't get it up for the Spartist view of musical history. Reminds me too much of squats, dog eared copies of City Limits and Socialist Worker, snakebite, cat piss in the kitchen and the self-styled hipsters with plastic shoes, faux cockney Strummer accents and Lawrence Corner coats. 25 years later it's way too grim and self-limiting a world-view for a bourgeois fucker like me. Even Burchill and Parsons have let it go.



Dunno. I've never lived in a squat in my life. I don't live in a city and my cat has a litter tray.

To be honest I'm not sure why you seem to think that I have some sort of obsession with the early 80's NME. Not at all. I read it, and I liked it but my fave early 80's artist was Cope who was hardly revered in that rag. I made my own mind up, Ian.

Still do.

And surely it's a bit rich making out that you've moved on from anything when you are clearly writing posts that resemble a 1975 Melody Maker letters page.


IanB wrote:

Happy new year.



And a happy new year too. Here's hoping for a more personable 2009.
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