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TomBo

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baal

Aug 11, 2004, 15:33

"But I have problems in associating Balder the Beautiful, god of harmony, with Balor lord of the hideous Formorians, gods of chaos"

You need to bear in mind that the gods of any one pantheon usually become the demons of the pantheon that supplants them - like the horned god and the Christian devil. I read the whole Formorians vs. the Tuatha da Danaan thang in these terms, as one pantheon supplanting an older one. The similarity between Balder and Balor is solar: Balder's got associations with light, as you rightly point out, and I read Balor's "evil eye", with it's power to blast and burn, as a solar symbol. Also relevant is the Russian/Slavic deity "Byelbog, the White God, the representative of light" (from http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/srp/srp05.htm ). And speaking of the Christian devil, I wonder, in this context, about the name "Beelzebub".

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Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi (Wyrd Brother)

Topic Outline:

WYRD WALKS – Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 04:02
- Re: WYRD WALKS – FourWinds, Jul 20, 2004, 07:13
  - masonic pentagrams – TomBo, Jul 20, 2004, 07:36
    - Re: masonic pentagrams – Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 22:53
      - Re: masonic pentagrams – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 05:46
        Humour me – FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 06:35
        Re: Humour me – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 08:03
        Re: Humour me – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 08:07
        Re: Humour me – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:11
        – – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:12
        Re: Humour me – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 09:14
        Re: Humour me – FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 15:39
        Re: Humour me – wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 18:08
        Re: Humour me – FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 18:43
        Re: Humour me – wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 20:53
        Re: Humour me – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 19:43
        bob – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 21:01
        Re: bob – TomBo, Jul 21, 2004, 21:01
        Re: masonic pentagrams – Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 04:36
  - Re: WYRD WALKS – Wyrd Brother, Jul 20, 2004, 22:23
    - Re: WYRD WALKS – FourWinds, Jul 21, 2004, 06:48
      - Re: WYRD WALKS – wideford, Jul 21, 2004, 09:25
        Re: WYRD WALKS – Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 04:47
        Re: WYRD WALKS – Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 05:22
        saint paul's – TomBo, Jul 22, 2004, 10:54
        Re: saint paul's – Wyrd Brother, Jul 30, 2004, 06:26
        Re: saint paul's – wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 08:10
        Pol's stump a London Moot? – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:13
        ludowanus – TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:01
        Re: ludowanus – TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:03
        Re: ludowanus – wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 18:18
        Re: ludowanus – TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:43
        lughnasadh salutations one and all! – TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:44
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! – TomBo, Jul 30, 2004, 18:46
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! – FourWinds, Jul 30, 2004, 19:21
        Re: lughnasadh salutations one and all! – wideford, Jul 30, 2004, 23:10
        llew's llaw – TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 06:48
        Muddy waters – fitzcoraldo, Aug 12, 2004, 13:04
        Re: ludowanus – Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 05:23
        ygg and wan – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:44
        Ludi Compitales – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:16
        balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 07:26
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 07:28
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – TomBo, Jul 31, 2004, 08:07
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – Kozmik_Ken, Jul 31, 2004, 10:44
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – wideford, Jul 31, 2004, 13:50
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 06:04
        baal – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:33
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 15:50
        the "new" world – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 16:12
        Re: the "new" world – Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 18:18
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – Wyrd Brother, Aug 09, 2004, 05:46
        Phoenican Baal – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 15:50
        Re: balder, balor, lugh, loki & louhi – sam, Aug 11, 2004, 17:03
        loxias – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:14
        lux – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:17
        Apollo and the Hyperboreans – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:33
        Re: Apollo and the Hyperboreans – TomBo, Aug 11, 2004, 17:35
        Re: Apollo and the Hyperboreans – Earthstepper, Aug 11, 2004, 19:45
      - Re: WYRD WALKS – Wyrd Brother, Jul 22, 2004, 05:08
        Sacred springs and wells? – Megalithic, Aug 11, 2004, 18:23
        le Gib returns (briefly) – RiotGibbon, Sep 03, 2004, 11:33


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