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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Nov 21, 2017, 11:48
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"At the Cabinet Committee yesterday it was agreed that rather than getting money back by leaving the EU, we would instead pay at least €40 billion for the privilege." (Evening Standard) |
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goffik 3926 posts |
Nov 21, 2017, 17:34
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Might have been a different story had they written THAT on the side of a bleedin' bus! :( G x
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thesweetcheat 6210 posts |
Nov 21, 2017, 18:09
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This made me want to cry. I despair. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-government-vote-animal-sentience-cant-feel-pain-eu-withdrawal-bill-anti-science-tory-mps-a8065161.html?amp
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tjj 3606 posts |
Nov 22, 2017, 14:10
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nigelswift wrote: "At the Cabinet Committee yesterday it was agreed that rather than getting money back by leaving the EU, we would instead pay at least €40 billion for the privilege." (Evening Standard) I'd like to join in this discussion but am too depressed about it all to talk about it. Just thinking about what sort of food items I can donate to our local Food Bank ... :(
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Captain Starlet 1110 posts |
Nov 22, 2017, 14:23
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This is all going down the tubes very rapidly, with no opposition the tories are steamrollering this all with the joyful cheers of Corbyn who must be rubbing his hands in glee at the moment!
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Nov 22, 2017, 14:52
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tjj wrote: I'd like to join in this discussion but am too depressed about it all to talk about it. I think that's how lots of people think. Stunned.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Nov 23, 2017, 16:37
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Politics apart, how depressing is this? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/23/eu-rules-british-cities-cannot-be-capitals-of-culture So much for "we may be leaving the EU but we'll still be part of Europe".
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tjj 3606 posts |
Edited Nov 23, 2017, 22:36
Nov 23, 2017, 22:15
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nigelswift wrote: Politics apart, how depressing is this? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/23/eu-rules-british-cities-cannot-be-capitals-of-culture So much for "we may be leaving the EU but we'll still be part of Europe". I sort of feel angry rather than depressed about this. Geographically the British Isles are part of Europe and it feels a bit 'dog in the manger' on behalf of the EU to do this. I particularly feel for Northern Ireland (actually Ireland as a whole) and Scotland as both countries must feel more and more on the edge of everything. What to do?
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Nov 24, 2017, 07:11
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Well, so far all they've done is stated the rules. It remains to be seen if they'll change them. I do try to avoid being sucked into blaming the EU for anything we don't get, I predicted that Leave would demonise them as each bad consequence became apparent. As for NI, Brexit and a soft border isn't possible IMO. In that, as in so much, we're being lied to.
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drewbhoy 2554 posts |
Edited Nov 24, 2017, 10:44
Nov 24, 2017, 10:42
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Scotland voted Remain, completely ignored and now we see Dundee not being considered for European City Of Culture. Not very democratic! As for Corbyn he's just as big a Tory as May.
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