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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
May 05, 2013, 14:36
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keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: Anyhoo, have a nice what's left of the Bank Holiday. Much of that will depend how Wrexham get on in the Play-off final this afternoon! I'm playing a gig in town there this evening. The pub will be a much happier place if our club is gonna be back in the football league!! Well, in that case, good luck with them and good luck with that. Maybe have two sets* ready. One for "Yay!" and the other for the possible drowning of sorrows? The Man City crowd often walk past my place and you can usually tell how it went by the smiles or lack of. *(I'm told "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" is a crowd pleaser....eeeeeekk!!)
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keith a 9573 posts |
May 05, 2013, 14:47
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Moon Cat wrote: keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: Anyhoo, have a nice what's left of the Bank Holiday. Much of that will depend how Wrexham get on in the Play-off final this afternoon! I'm playing a gig in town there this evening. The pub will be a much happier place if our club is gonna be back in the football league!! Well, in that case, good luck with them and good luck with that. Maybe have two sets* ready. One for "Yay!" and the other for the possible drowning of sorrows? The Man City crowd often walk past my place and you can usually tell how it went by the smiles or lack of. *(I'm told "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" is a crowd pleaser....eeeeeekk!!) Cheers. Andy Williams 'Can't Take My Eyes Off You' is the big footie crowd fave here. Which is a good thing!
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laresident 861 posts |
May 05, 2013, 15:24
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I heard The 13th Floor Elevators while shopping at my Trader Joe's the other day.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
May 05, 2013, 17:24
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keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: Anyhoo, have a nice what's left of the Bank Holiday. Much of that will depend how Wrexham get on in the Play-off final this afternoon! I'm playing a gig in town there this evening. The pub will be a much happier place if our club is gonna be back in the football league!! Well, in that case, good luck with them and good luck with that. Maybe have two sets* ready. One for "Yay!" and the other for the possible drowning of sorrows? The Man City crowd often walk past my place and you can usually tell how it went by the smiles or lack of. *(I'm told "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" is a crowd pleaser....eeeeeekk!!) Cheers. Andy Williams 'Can't Take My Eyes Off You' is the big footie crowd fave here. Which is a good thing! Give ema one-two with Moon River and they'll be putty in your...well, they'll be putty. Probably.
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 05, 2013, 19:22
May 05, 2013, 19:07
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keith a wrote: IanB wrote: keith a wrote: IanB wrote: keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: keith a wrote: Moon Cat wrote: Oasis had it and blew it (or snorted it as it were). Some genius tunes, and absolutely kicked the dust up, but ultimately crippled, as so many from this city before or since, by a slavish adherence to 'cool'. Dunno about that last bit. I think you're first reference was more the issue with where and how it went wrong. Liam Gallagher is clearly terrified of looking 'silly', within his limited parameters That statement could refer to just about any 'rock star' you could think of. Not really. I'd say there are loads of 'em that are completely aware of ridiculousness and are not afraid to embrace it. Dave Lee Roth, that band beginnning with "K" you like so much, Adam Ant (so much so he wrote a line about it), Slade, Ian Anderson, Bowie on occasion albeit through alter-egos, Devo, Andrew Eldritch, David Coverdale, Rob Halford, GWAR, Steel Panther, The Darkness, Mikael Akerfeldt, Robbie Williams, Cheap Trick, ALice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Iggy, John Lydon (when they trot out the Pistols),.... to name but a few. Hmmm. They all have their own image and do what they do. Liam has his and does his thing. I can't imagine Andrew Eldritch going on The Muppet Show anymore than Liam. But if you're picking The Darkness you may as well go the whole hog and pick The Barron Knights. I am sure Eldritch would have loved to have been on the Muppet show though probably as a Muppet rather than as himself. The Sisters collaborated on that 2000AD thing in the late 80s which was not at all reverential. Have you seen the Floodland era videos? Completely absurd and knowingly so. The sort of thing that could only have been come up with by someone who grew up with The Avengers and that 60s school of serious/silly high camp tv. The Darkness are total winkers. Maybe you need to be an appreciator of unwinking rock n roll of that ilk to get the joke AND fall in love with the tunes. It's a little like the folks who allegedly took Spinal Tap at face value as a documentary and missed the mock aspect entirely. Though I say that as someone who plays the Rutles album as often as I play Revolver. Whoah!! The Darkness are punching way above their weight getting mentioned in the same breath as Spinal Tap and The Rutles! Despite ridiculousness of the whole thing they always seemed to take themselves quite seriously. I was about to say it helps if you like the type of music that they're parodying, but then again if somethings good enough (like Spinal Tap or The Mighty Wind for that matter), it doesn't matter. But liking early punk definitely helps me appreciate the joke of Punk's Not Dad where some older blokes play spirit of '76 type thrashy stuff, but with subjects that include sheds and man-flu as opposed to anarchy and smashing things up! Spinal Tap and Rutles belong together no question but The Darkness do not. I was comparing the confusion among not-in-the-metal-know onlookers rather than linking the things themselves. The Darkness are not pastiche. There is definitely a guilty pleasure aspect for the parts of their audience that "don't usually like that kind of thing" and there are more than a few nods and winks towards those of us who like that kind of music but the artistic intent is I think deadly serious. Like Jellyfish in that respect and at least as serious as say The Specials. Or Elastica. Or The Strokes. Hmm. I really can't imagine The Darkness writing something like Ghost Town. Well, we don't know that for sure. That's the thing about pop music, the plates shift incredibly quickly and someone can go away and come back a year later with something totally different. Who could imagine the man who recorded When Joanna Loved Me coming up with Tilt or Drift? Or the author of Laughing Gnome coming up with Low? Or that Jerry Dammers would be fronting a Sun Ra influenced big band playing free jazz and lounge tunes? Not me. Not without the benefit of considerable hindsight. Though our even considering that line of thought is a little like that Dylan / Keef thing - "I could have written Satisfaction but you couldn't write ....." whatever it was (Sad Eyed Lady? Highway 61?). A good quote from Bob but not terribly useful or perceptive. It is just point scoring. And it's not like there is a league table of pop and rock that everyone agrees on. My league table such as it is changes daily! That's its endless kaleidoscopic beauty isn't it? Sadly most pop / rock artists reach their commercial peak when still artistically immature (and I mean that non pejoratively). Mostly we never find out what they could have done as the commercial rug is pulled and the attention span of most fans is non existent. Not holding my breath for the Hawkins Second Symphony or Justin Sings Kerome Kern but it's not impossible!
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Kid Calamity 9045 posts |
May 05, 2013, 19:16
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On record* that new single's pretty damned good, but having Miranda step in on vocals wasn't wise. *Ah, good old studio fairy dust.
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Wiggy 1696 posts |
May 07, 2013, 20:12
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Got to say, I thought most "shoegaze" was pretty sh#t too - same chords, same pedals, all pretty samey really, although there were some excellent exceptions.
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Wiggy 1696 posts |
May 07, 2013, 20:14
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Once something stops moving it's pretty easy to appropriate.
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