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Jasonaparkes 876 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 19:32
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Has Drum by Hugo Largo been mentioned?
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited Mar 23, 2010, 19:41
Mar 23, 2010, 19:38
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Wow. Very complete! To add to all that, I'd say the Sun Dial album 'Reflector" was more overtly (and consciously?) shoegazey than the debut album. Good call on Shellyan Orphan too. Kinda of a more ye olde Englande pastoral take on the whole thing, but certainly contemporary and relevant to the genre, such as it is. ps Wish us Brits had gone for the, prettier, more US centric 'Dream Pop" tag rather than "Shoegaze", although I suppose there is something quite telling in the difference in names 8^)
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Jasonaparkes 876 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 20:07
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Cocteau Twins were probably the blue-print, though you could argue the Eno-ambient stuff or twiddly ambient/guitar types like Bill Nelson and Durutti Column. Cocteau Twins major influences seem to be the Banshees and Harold Budd. While sounding little like shoegaze, the feel of Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom and a track like Solar Flares...makes me think of this genre. Could it all come from Jimi's 1983, A Merman I Will Be and Winwood's Arc of a Diver as suggested in Mojo a few years ago? Maybe...though the twiddly guitar work on 801 Live could be shoegaze before shoegaze - I never heard the Diamond Head LP...
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mingtp 2270 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 20:19
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Moon Cat wrote: To add to all that, I'd say the Sun Dial album 'Reflector" was more overtly (and consciously?) shoegazey than the debut album. Aye, for sure, but Reflector is a much weaker album than Other Way Out imo, so it's the first album that'd be the one I'd recommend to anyone looking for a place to start with Sun Dial. Bloody great live band too if I remember rightly.
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Jasonaparkes 876 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 21:31
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Bleach were a bit more punky - or rather like a non-dub Slits - some of the repeitition etc also predicted the early post-post-punk of Life Without Buildings. On the Nowhere-tour they supported Ride and Andy Bell wore one of their t-shirts - 'Wipe it Away' and 'Shotgun' were jolly great
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Jasonaparkes 876 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 21:49
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I think Blur being associated was a social thing - their early good stuff like the Seymour-material (basically a C-86 style Cardiacs)and the psychey likes of 'Mr Briggs', 'I Know', 'Sing', 'Birthday' etc were nothing like shoegaze bands. The Dream Pop tag works for me more, The Cure's Disintegration was quite associated with that too... Though associated more with post-rock types like The For Carnation and Daydream-Sonic Youth, Unwound's Leaves Turn Inside You is musically not that far from the noiser end of things... I recall Earwig, who I think were later re-tagged Insides were really decent. Wasn't someone from Seefeel in a band with Robin Guthrie - Violet Indiana? The early years of Bella-Union has lots of this stuff. Cranes were great, though I tuned out in the mid-90's for reasons I'm not sure of. Enjoyed the fact both them and Mogwai were suitably full-on when supporting The Cure one summer in Hyde Park. It even got The Cure into the mood to play a set chock full of woe - Plainsong, Pornography, The Drowning Man, M, 100 Years, The Kiss, From the Edge of a Deep Green Sea etc...The early Cranes stuff was very indebted to Swans - they felt like them when they did songs like 'Starblood' and 'I Hope.' Things like 'Adoration' moved towards This Mortal Coil and The Hope Blister. I did find it a bit sad they named an LP after a Cure-song, possibly as it's similar to The Bluetones naming their LP after a Buffalo Springfield song... A bit too late for shoegaze and a little bit dated were Geneva - was very fond of their 1st Mike Hedges-produced LP Further. Maybe it was the cover and the high pitched vocals - songs like 'Transquiliser', 'Into the Blue', 'Nature's Whore', the title track etc were dandy.... I did think the Delays' Nearer Than Heaven sounded like Lush !!
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Jasonaparkes 876 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 21:59
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I guess Caribou a.k.a. Manitoba aren't far away from the Nu-Gaze thang - Up in Flames and Andorra work for me... I downloaded some Gliss as I was curious about very positive reviews that did point out they were great despite the dodgy name and the fact Billy Corgan was a big fan...'Devotion Implosion' and 'Love the Virgins' are great. Definitely in this ball-park... Would we say that Damon & Naomi's 'More Sad Hits' counts? It's the one where Kramer came to the fore as Dean Wareham had split the band. Much more psychedelic than Galaxie 500 and some lovely vocals from both D & N that makes me wish they'd sung in G500 too. 'ETA' is absolutely perfect//heck, as is the rest - one that deserves the Unsung-treatment. Great cover of Hugh Hopper's Memories too and definitely the best record from any of the three of G500 since their demise...
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keith a 9573 posts |
Mar 23, 2010, 22:32
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Jasonaparkes wrote: *Fade Out/World In Your Eyes by Loop *any of the Galaxie 500 reissues *Spirit of Eden by Talk Talk *the Rain Tree Crow LP *Heaven Scent by The Perfect Disaster I really can't see how any of these come under title 'Shoegazer Recommendations' personally! Spirit of Eden?
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Sin Agog 2253 posts |
Edited Mar 24, 2010, 09:19
Mar 24, 2010, 06:14
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Brad Laner, who put out one of thee best and most criminally underrated albums of the '80s with the Steaming Coils (Breaded, which his friends at Mutant Sounds uploaded online gratis and legally here), did some great stuff in the band Medicine. Their first album Shot Forth Self Living is the one to get- though the first song starts with some real Keiji Haino-esque guitar 'splosions, so be brave! They're more like an evolution on Shoegazer, but Disco Inferno made some beautiful noisy soundscapes on D.I. Goes Pop and The 5 Eps. New Zealand's Bailter Space (formerly the even better Gordons) are worth checking out, too- choicest LP being Robot World. The really catchy noise-pop girl group Black Tambourine kind of pre-empted shoegaze by a couple of years. Their stuff can be found on the Complete Recordings comp...though I think they only made about 9 songs in their short lifespan. It's got a great cover of Love's Can't Explain on there. And you can't go wrong with Flying Saucer Attack's first two LP's. They also appeared on the droney, almost shoegazery comp, Harmony of the Spheres. That has one of the most transcendently beautiful songs ever on it in the form of Roy Montgomery's Fantasia on a Theme by Sandy Bull. Think a Popol Vuh and the Durutti Column cover band whose only member is God! Swirlies were pretty cool. I prefer their first LP, Blonder Tongue Audio Baton, because it has a couple of great vapourous indie pop numbers like Pancake. And the ridiculously prolific Finnish band Circle had a real sludgy shoegazer sound on their first LP, Meronia. Although it's shoegazer as played by Cro Magnon Neu obsessives. Moon Cat wrote: ps Wish us Brits had gone for the, prettier, more US centric 'Dream Pop" tag rather than "Shoegaze", although I suppose there is something quite telling in the difference in names 8^) I think it was the London group A R Kane who coined the phrase Dream Pop. Nothing to be ashamed about; it made for some really gorgeous music. Speaking of A R Kane, this is the 69th post in this thread!
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machineryelf 3681 posts |
Mar 24, 2010, 08:36
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keith a wrote: Jasonaparkes wrote: *Fade Out/World In Your Eyes by Loop *any of the Galaxie 500 reissues *Spirit of Eden by Talk Talk *the Rain Tree Crow LP *Heaven Scent by The Perfect Disaster I really can't see how any of these come under title 'Shoegazer Recommendations' personally! Spirit of Eden? Ear, Main, Sonic Boom? Pretty wide definition of Shoegaze there I think Can we add Quo to the list, with all that headsdownnononsenseboogie they probably see their footwear quite often;-)
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