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Rhiannon
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Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 17, 2015, 07:15
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/17/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-dont-do-personal

He's like the anti-Cameron. But unfortunately it seems he also sticks out like a sore thumb in the labour party. He'd get my vote any day. At least he has some bloody convictions and sticks to them, at least he actually gives a shit about things. Unlike the wishywashy tory-lite that the party seem to have become. At least if the electorate had voted against proper left policies, you'd have known they didn't want them. Whereas what were all those tory voters voting against, I doubt they even know because I hardly know myself.

but there we are.
tjj
tjj
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 17, 2015, 09:26
Have to back you up on this Rhiannon ... my sort of politician and person. Unlikely to be elected as leader of the current Labour Party though - not egocentric or shouty enough and still too much of a true socialist. I would vote for him if I was a member of the Labour Party - which hitherto I'm not.

A short quote from the article:
You have described yourself as parsimonious, haven’t you? “Probably, yes.” How? “Well, I don’t spend a lot of money, I lead a very normal life, I ride a bicycle and I don’t have a car.”

Corbyn seems so distant from modern Labour. Has he ever been close to leaving? “I’ve often been extremely frustrated by the Labour party, particularly over Iraq and, earlier, on Vietnam. Then you think what the Labour party has achieved, and that it is the electoral home to millions of people, so I’m still in it. Always have been. I remember discussing this with Tony Benn many times, and he said: ‘You know, comrade, we’re just in it, aren’t we?’ Tony was a very close friend.”
spencer
spencer
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 17, 2015, 11:19
If he were Labour leader I'd vote for them again. But he won't be : (
Rhiannon
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 17, 2015, 12:38
"Not egocentric or shouty enough and still too much of a true socialist." so true June, so true.
I've been in a union for years and this week got an email to say since part of my subs go into the political fund wot goes to the labour party I can vote in the leadership election. (I am ashamed to say I'd forgotten I'd chosen to do this with my money, you can choose it to go elsewhere, so when I joined I must have been feeling keener on them than I am now... in my defence I guess it's a way of grass roots making themselves felt up in the rarified air). So this means I do actually get a vote apparently. So he will be getting mine.
Some might feel any shift to the left would make Labour even more unelectable. But unless they do move to the left I can't see any point in their existence. You're not really 'opposition' if you agree with most of the things the vermin say, surely?
Rhiannon
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oh and this from frankie boyle
Jun 17, 2015, 12:50
"We’re told that they are responding to the concerns of voters. Labour keeps saying: “We’re concerned about immigration because that’s what people say on the doorstep.” You’re a political party. You’re not asking people if they want anything down the shops – you’re meant to have guiding principles."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/16/labour-leadership-candidates-boring-rightwing-frankie-boyle

I know, i know, I should read something else other than the guardian for a change. I'm trapped in my own little bubble.
Moon Cat
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 17, 2015, 16:08
Not sure how much of a chance he has, but but a hope at least he gets to make an impact in the contest and inspire some debate. It's a sign of the times that someone with his views and dedication is perceived as an anachronism.

I fully expect the shitty papers to give him a hard time too.
spencer
spencer
2843 posts

Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 19, 2015, 00:16
Just seen Dianne Abbott say on This Week (cough) that she watched the hustings of leadership candidates in Nuneaton with apparently an audience chosen because they hadn't voted Labour at the election and it was Corbyn who got most applause. I'm sure that I'm not the only one disenchanted with Labour because it has become a party lead by arselicking quasi-Tories who will be heartened by that. But the leadership process is a different beast to public opinion. My attitude to the other candidates is 'gawd'. Yvette Cooper is the 'best' of them, and who I think will get the job... looks like I'm carrying on voting Green.
mingtp
mingtp
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 27, 2015, 19:53
I joined the Labour party the other week just to vote for JC as leader. Maybe I'm an optimist but I think he has a real chance.
riverman
riverman
823 posts

Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 27, 2015, 21:50
Interesting post from Craig Murray on Corbyn

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2015/06/nicola-corbyn-and-the-myth-of-the-unelectable-left/
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jun 28, 2015, 19:04
Re: Jeremy Corbyn
Jun 28, 2015, 19:02
You don't even need to be a member. It costs £3 to have say in the outcome. £3 buys you the same say in the leadership election as Liz Kendall, Andy Burnham and the rest of those MPs with their white flags of surrender already bought and paid for. The best £3 most people will ever spend if JC gets the leadership.

Corbyn / Creasy the dream ticket.
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