handofdave
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 05, 2006, 15:11
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There really does seem to be no shame whatsoever in the White House or at Downing Street.
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Ghost of Bill Hicks
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 05, 2006, 15:22
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War! What is it good for?... absolutely justifing the military budget actually.
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handofdave
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 05, 2006, 15:35
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Ghost of Bill Hicks wrote: War! What is it good for?... absolutely justifing the military budget actually.
I want to break things sometimes when I hear idjits in the US get all huffy about 'government subsidies' on things like social programs or the space program.
The #1 Subsidy is the Pentagon, on behalf of big oil. The neocons have been hollering that the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with oil... but we all know better... not 'oil' per se but the power and wealth inherent via control over it.
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Lupus
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 06, 2006, 08:03
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It seems Peace has never been a popular commodity.
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Lupus
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 06, 2006, 08:23
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The shamelesness is wide spread, it seems. In Norway we still produce cluster bombs, though we officially are veeeery much against them being used. They were probably last used during the Israeli bashing of Southern Lebanon. Money talks loudly, but in a twisted language!
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handofdave
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 06, 2006, 12:46
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Lupus wrote: The shamelesness is wide spread, it seems. In Norway we still produce cluster bombs, though we officially are veeeery much against them being used. They were probably last used during the Israeli bashing of Southern Lebanon. Money talks loudly, but in a twisted language!
'My Child, My Land' by Francine Desbiens... from the excellent National Film Board of Canada site.....
http://www.nfb.ca/animation/objanim/en/class/students/film.php?theme=30639&filmid=33646
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mole
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 08, 2006, 11:50
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The natives are restless tonight, sir
Cooped up on estates with no hope in sight
They need some kind of distraction
We can give them that
'Cause they'd kill if they only had something to kill for
They'd die if they only had something to die for
They'd cheer if they only had something to cheer for
We can give them that
So it's off to war we go (I couldn't believe it)
Bring out all the flags (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight
It's working like a dream, sir
Half the nation are hooked on the bait
Waiting for the next victorious instalment
We can give them that
'Cause it's no surprise that young men are heroes
It's no surprise that young men are strong
It's no surprise that young men are foolish
We've known that all along
Exciting pictures on News at Ten (I couldn't believe it)
Read all the crap on all the front pages (I never believed it)
Fight the good fight
Dead men in the South Atlantic
It's meant to warm our hearts
They think that they died for you and me
Oh God, what a farce, what a farce
And now it's the repeats
Plugging the Falklands and the Falklands' spirit
Show the pictures again and again
Till the next war comes around
'Cause we'll kill if we only have something to kill for
We'll die if we only have something to die for
We'll cheer if we only have something to cheer for
That is worthy of the name
Oh yes the next war (I never believed it)
See the propaganda in TV fiction (I never believed it)
Enemies with horns and tails
There are dead men in the South Atlantic
It's meant to warm our hearts
They think that they died for you and me
Oh God, what a farce, what a farce
There's crippled men back home in England
Doesn't it warm your hearts
They think they fought for peace and freedom
Poor boys, what a farce, what a farce
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Lupus
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 08, 2006, 12:48
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Sad but true; directly or indirectly we are all a part of it.
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Lupus
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 08, 2006, 12:51
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And the absurd bloodbath goes on and on......... Only the colours of the banners change.
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Vybik Jon
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Re: Peace In Our Time
Sep 18, 2006, 17:31
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Civilian deaths in Iraq since the coalition rolled into town:
43258 minimum to 48035 maximum.
So, what makes it an insurgency and what makes it civil war?
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