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tjj
tjj
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Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 17:12
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
I think the winter sun will be seen to set behind this new discovery at Uffington, if viewed from the hill. Should ruffle a few feathers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z_B53IisHQc


I doubt it very much since it was doing the rounds on April 1st. Quite funny I thought.
tjj
tjj
3606 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 17:28
I regret posting this link on the Home page - was expecting it to be mostly ignored as is usually the case. It it wasn't for the fact it has 46 comments under it I may well have deleted it.

Anyway, here it is as a forum topic with over 60 comments mostly by the same two people with just thesweetcheat bravely trying to offer an alternative view. Reading some of the posts, the word dogmatic comes to mind.
So I've written a few words to say what Uffington White Horse means to me - and oddly enough it has nothing to do with the sun and far more to do with the wind.
An ancient symbol carved just below the brow of Uffington Hill, quite close to the hill-fort, it is a place deeply embedded in my psyche, almost an extension of Avebury, linked to it by the Ridgeway. When seen from the London train, it tells me I am nearly home. In fact, optical illusion though it may be, it appears to be galloping in the same direction. But of course it is the speed of the train which causes this effect.
It’s a place I go whenever the opportunity arises to refresh and recharge. A place to take the heartaches of life and loss, leaving them there to be blown away on the wind. A place to see the red kite and kestrel hover below so you almost feel you are flying with them. A place of wild orchids and blue butterflies. A wonderful, enigmatic place of mystery and the elements.

Can I have it back now please.
thelonious
330 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 17:48
“A place to take the heartaches of life and loss, leaving them there to be blown away on the wind.” – I think we all need to find places like this tjj, I know I do and yours sounds just wonderful.
tiompan
tiompan
5758 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 18:07
Sorry if you felt it was taken away from you tjj .
The article and earlier paper certainly didn't deserve the number of posts .
Could you clarify what you felt was dogmatic please ?
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
6214 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 19:35
A lovely post. I'm saying nothing more on this subject, other than to wholeheartedly agree with this:

"When seen from the London train, it tells me I am nearly home. In fact, optical illusion though it may be, it appears to be galloping in the same direction."

You and I have probably seen that view from the train more times than any of the other contributors to this particular thread. The horse does absolutely appear to be galloping in the same direction as the train.
tiompan
tiompan
5758 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 19:54
[quote="thesweetcheat"

The horse does absolutely appear to be galloping in the same direction as the train.[/quote]

But you know that is just an impression and not the basis for a theory about the horse and any change in it's direction that might be assumed from your observation .

Although I was a regular commuter between Bath and London for some time , I have no doubt that you have travelled that route far more often than I.
But I wouldn't suggest that gave me any better understanding of the problems discussed than someone who had never set foot or sat arse in a train in the area .
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 19:58
tjj wrote:
I regret posting this link on the Home page - was expecting it to be mostly ignored as is usually the case. It it wasn't for the fact it has 46 comments under it I may well have deleted it.

Anyway, here it is as a forum topic with over 60 comments mostly by the same two people with just thesweetcheat bravely trying to offer an alternative view. Reading some of the posts, the word dogmatic comes to mind.
So I've written a few words to say what Uffington White Horse means to me - and oddly enough it has nothing to do with the sun and far more to do with the wind.
An ancient symbol carved just below the brow of Uffington Hill, quite close to the hill-fort, it is a place deeply embedded in my psyche, almost an extension of Avebury, linked to it by the Ridgeway. When seen from the London train, it tells me I am nearly home. In fact, optical illusion though it may be, it appears to be galloping in the same direction. But of course it is the speed of the train which causes this effect.
It’s a place I go whenever the opportunity arises to refresh and recharge. A place to take the heartaches of life and loss, leaving them there to be blown away on the wind. A place to see the red kite and kestrel hover below so you almost feel you are flying with them. A place of wild orchids and blue butterflies. A wonderful, enigmatic place of mystery and the elements.

Can I have it back now please.



Rather than get quietly frustrated by this but say nothing, i'm going to be honest, this has really pissed me off.

It's a forum debate about a theory that somebody has included in a paper.
It's nothing to do with you or what Uffington means to you.
You simply posted a news item which prompted comment.
But it seems you now you think you are entitled to start posting sly insulting comment -

"Sweetcheat 'bravely' trying to offer an alternative view"

"The word 'dogmatic' comes to mind"

'Can I have it back now please"

What is that?

Would you like me to start telling you what words come to my mind when I read your posts?

If it makes you feel comfortable to think of me or my comments as 'dogmatic', then that is your issue, not mine. I find the intimation that I, and others, because we are able to apply logic to a problem, are somehow unable or unwilling to consider, or hold, a 'spiritual' view or an 'alternative' view, extremely ignorant.
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
6214 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 19:59
Whatever. My perception is my perception. I'm viewing a picture, a piece of art, glorious and fluid.

I have no idea what you're viewing. Some lines carved into the ground that can be measured with a compass or theodolite perhaps.

I've spent far too much time in the discussion, you're welcome to claim the field.
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 20:02
thesweetcheat wrote:
Whatever.


Ha, this place. Ridiculous.
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
6214 posts

Re: uffington horse and the sun
Aug 19, 2017, 20:11
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Whatever.


Ha, this place. Ridiculous.




Yes. It is. The link was posted and before anyone could discuss it or maybe consider the ideas it contained, it had already been torn up and scorned. In a different world, we could have had a discussion, kicked the ideas about. We probably still would come to the conclusion they either didn't hold up, or that there was no evidence to support them. But that doesn't happen on TMA. Instead the whole thing is instantly ridiculed and if there's any suggestion that some elements may bear a little more consideration, or have alternative interpretation, it's instantly shut down as well.

I wasn't joking when I said Thom would be crucified on here. As would Julian Cope for that matter.

I have huge respect for tiompan and I'm the last to accept opinion-as-fact theories, but I think this forum has become very closed minded. Cerrig has never returned after trying to discuss his ideas and been shouted down.
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