'Dare' is from 1981, when things were still relatively ticketty-boo. And I've absolutely no problems with the production on that. Like you say, it was probably '82 which was the watershed year, after which things largely went downhill for a while (and I'd agree that Magazine's split was a decisive element in that, for me anyway).
I never really got into the Mondays, JAMC or MBV until later on, and the C86 scene just left me cold. Loved Loop, mind.
I take your point about there being some great 45s in the decade, but it was kack like 5 Star and Whitney Houston that dominated the airwaves and, sadly, my memory of those times!
If any one name typifies what I'm thinking here, it's David Bowie who, after a magnificent 70's, went artistically AWOL for me after 'Scary Monsters'. I still find it hard to believe that the man who wrote 'The Bewlay Brothers' went on to write 'Blue Jean'!
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