Five
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Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 09, 2007, 20:58
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re: hack job on AOXOMOXOA
TRUE DAT!
Why they would do that to their own album - even after reading their explanations in interviews - is a bit beyond me, kinda like Zappa gong back and redoing parts on his resissues
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shanshee_allures
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Edited Jun 09, 2007, 21:11
Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 09, 2007, 21:10
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Five wrote:
kinda like Zappa gong back and redoing parts on his resissues
It goes that some of those masters were ruined due to bad storage, and had to be tweaked, which considering how zealous he was about what he did, makes hardly any sense really.
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Five
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Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 09, 2007, 21:55
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exactly -
according to the biased and inflammatory bio I read,
(so it's open to question)
he replaced things that it would seem didn't need to be replaced
I've read FZ himself saying elsewhere that
in his own view he was just improving the product
and couldn't figure out why people were so bugged
and I think from what I've read that
the GD were doing the same thing, sorta
second-guessing themselves and being a bit
critical after the fact rather than letting the piece
stand as a document of its time
I can understand the temptation...
But on the other hand I have no problem in either case
with the product in its original form
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shanshee_allures
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Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 09, 2007, 22:03
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Five wrote:
according to the biased and inflammatory bio I read,
Would that be the Barry Miles one?
I got it as an Xmas pressie, haven't read it yet (got other thangs to bog me down!), but according to someone who has, he paints Frank as a total and utter bastard. But they were good friends it seems!
Interesting to learn why he got so hung up on censorship tho, that police sting re that silly porno soundtrack....
I'm a bit of a Zappa apologist at heart, I admit it!!!
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Five
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Edited Jun 09, 2007, 22:09
Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 09, 2007, 22:07
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whoops 2
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Five
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Edited Jun 09, 2007, 22:09
Re: FZ tangent
Jun 09, 2007, 22:08
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whoops
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Five
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Re: FZ tangent
Jun 09, 2007, 22:08
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shanshee_allures wrote: Five wrote:
according to the biased and inflammatory bio I read,
Would that be the Barry Miles one?
I got it as an Xmas pressie, haven't read it yet (got other thangs to bog me down!), but according to someone who has, he paints Frank as a total and utter bastard. But they were good friends it seems!
Yeah that's the one
Posted a bash of it on my blog
and got a nice comment from Gail Zappa
confirming that Miles had a lame agenda
and expressing her condolences that I had wasted
my time and money
I mean, it's informative in some ways
but the bias is present - in fact, it's (creepily) present mainly in the
subtext, so you won't notice unless you're geared to notice it!
As an apologist you will of course catch on...
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shanshee_allures
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Re: FZ tangent
Jun 09, 2007, 22:18
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Thanks form that. I promise myself I'll read it before the year's out, and I'm prepared alright...
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Beebon
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Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 10, 2007, 11:26
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I like some of their stuff but theyŕe not THAT good.
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earthlingfred93
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Re: The Grateful Dead: America's greatest ever band?
Jun 10, 2007, 12:49
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You have a valid point with Marquee moon. But do you think Verlaine and Co would have made such an innovative album without listening to those early classic dead albums. To me the dead is in there....
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