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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 14:25
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Anybody notice that some of the songs were played a whole tone lower than the recorded versions? I was just sat playing along on my telecaster (sad innit) and I noticed that stairway is in G (usually in A), Dazed and confused is in F (usually in G) and quite a few of the others are lowered by a whole tone too. However some were in the normal key, whole lotta love for example. There I was getting all ready to duck walk across the living room to rock n roll wearing my zoso pyjamas, A shape at the ready, but no, it's in bleedin G! Devils work, I tell thee! This must have meant that pages guitar was tuned down for some of the songs. To accommodate plants voice maybe?
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Mr Crowley 184 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 14:39
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: Anybody notice that some of the songs were played a whole tone lower than the recorded versions? I was just sat playing along on my telecaster (sad innit) and I noticed that stairway is in G (usually in A), Dazed and confused is in F (usually in G) and quite a few of the others are lowered by a whole tone too. However some were in the normal key, whole lotta love for example. There I was getting all ready to duck walk across the living room to rock n roll wearing my zoso pyjamas, A shape at the ready, but no, it's in bleedin G! Devils work, I tell thee! This must have meant that pages guitar was tuned down for some of the songs. To accommodate plants voice maybe? A number of the songs were down-tuned for Plant and his range nowadays. He admits that by Kashmir his voice was going. Another thing was that Page kept his solos more akin to the studio versions rather than impro versions - again, an age thing I think and probably having not played a live concert since 2000 didn't help also. His broken little pinkie also isn't much in use if you look at the DVD
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 15:57
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Mr Crowley wrote: Evergreen Dazed wrote: Anybody notice that some of the songs were played a whole tone lower than the recorded versions? I was just sat playing along on my telecaster (sad innit) and I noticed that stairway is in G (usually in A), Dazed and confused is in F (usually in G) and quite a few of the others are lowered by a whole tone too. However some were in the normal key, whole lotta love for example. There I was getting all ready to duck walk across the living room to rock n roll wearing my zoso pyjamas, A shape at the ready, but no, it's in bleedin G! Devils work, I tell thee! This must have meant that pages guitar was tuned down for some of the songs. To accommodate plants voice maybe? A number of the songs were down-tuned for Plant and his range nowadays. He admits that by Kashmir his voice was going. Another thing was that Page kept his solos more akin to the studio versions rather than impro versions - again, an age thing I think and probably having not played a live concert since 2000 didn't help also. His broken little pinkie also isn't much in use if you look at the DVD Ah, makes sense. The song remains the same sounds particularly unusual played in C, but it was a brilliant performance of it. The way they seemingly lose their way, or are drifting off and only holding it together by a thread, but then suddenly it's all back and tight as a ducks bottom, its bloody fantastic. And I really love Jason Bonhams notes in the booklet.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited Jan 01, 2013, 16:38
Jan 01, 2013, 16:24
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I really enjoyed those moments when things were looking like going off the rails but somehow they held it all together. Really dynamic. Tight but Loose indeed! I wondered about the solos being as the album versions but it struck as making sense (as well as being enjoyable!) in that Zep weren't playing those epics gigs where they went on for about 4 hours and also it was in a sense a celebration of the music itself, as well as of the band, and as such they may have been some desire from the band to present the songs in the 'classic' style - this is who we are and what we did. I know I'm birrova fan n stuff, but I just watched agog thinking "They really are bloody good!" That sense of four talents combining for some heavy duty alchemical workings really came across. Lovely!
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 16:47
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Moon Cat wrote: I really enjoyed those moments when things were looking like going off the rails but somehow they held it all together. Really dynamic. Tight but Loose indeed! I wondered about the solos being as the album versions but it struck as making sense (as well as being enjoyable!) in that Zep weren't playing those epics gigs where they went on for about 4 hours and also it was in a sense a celebration of the music itself, as well as of the band, and as such they may have been some desire from the band to present the songs in the 'classic' style - this is who we are and what we did. I know I'm birrova fan n stuff, but I just watched agog thinking "They really are bloody good!" That sense of four talents combining for some heavy duty alchemical workings really came across. Lovely! Totally agree, mind blowing, genuinely, no need for hype of any description! A rare thing indeed.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited Jan 01, 2013, 16:53
Jan 01, 2013, 16:52
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: Moon Cat wrote: I really enjoyed those moments when things were looking like going off the rails but somehow they held it all together. Really dynamic. Tight but Loose indeed! I wondered about the solos being as the album versions but it struck as making sense (as well as being enjoyable!) in that Zep weren't playing those epics gigs where they went on for about 4 hours and also it was in a sense a celebration of the music itself, as well as of the band, and as such they may have been some desire from the band to present the songs in the 'classic' style - this is who we are and what we did. I know I'm birrova fan n stuff, but I just watched agog thinking "They really are bloody good!" That sense of four talents combining for some heavy duty alchemical workings really came across. Lovely! Totally agree, mind blowing, genuinely, no need for hype of any description! A rare thing indeed. I'll be honest. After seeing it I was quite tempted to lick the discs. Or at least give 'em a quick fondle.
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Kid Calamity 9047 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 17:00
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Ha! Yes, transposed down for Plant's voice. Adherance to recorded version of tunes was mainly for the benefit of Jason Bonham, I suspect. All he had to go on were records and bootlegs. But, once the lights were up, the Led Zeppelin spirit of reversing up cul de sacs and jamming their way out of it just magically happened. I wish the rumours were true, that reached me via the jungle drums. I was very happy to believe that the occasional Led Zeppelin reunions would continue as secret 'word-of-mouth' gigs in remote pubs. Just four blokes setting up their gear and jamming for the fuckin' love of it all.
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meurglys III 1085 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 18:49
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Me three! Loved that version of Stairway, US overblown though it was. The Letterman interview from the following night is fun too. Funny thing about Zep, they don't seem like distant superstars at all, maybe because Plant is so down to earth, still pootling around the West Midlands, Page turns up at Nick Harper gigs, Jonesey is so self-effacing and Jason Bonham just seems like a top bloke. I love em. >emotional< :-)
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wychburyman 951 posts |
Jan 01, 2013, 20:01
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meurglys III wrote: Me three! Loved that version of Stairway, US overblown though it was. The Letterman interview from the following night is fun too. Funny thing about Zep, they don't seem like distant superstars at all, maybe because Plant is so down to earth, still pootling around the West Midlands, Page turns up at Nick Harper gigs, Jonesey is so self-effacing and Jason Bonham just seems like a top bloke. I love em. >emotional< :-) Aye. I've seen planty on a number of occasions around Bewdley and Kinver and he's always seemed the nicest of guys
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keith a 9573 posts |
Jan 02, 2013, 08:56
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: Blimey, watching Robert Plants reaction had me going a bit there too. Yeah, I'm normally a bit cynical about these things, but it had a bit of an effect on me, too, not least cos it made me feel very old.
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