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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2011, 15:25
Sep 26, 2011, 15:16
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drewbhoy wrote: You seem to mention Opeth a lot. Are they any good? It entirely depends on what floats your boat Sir. If the idea of progressive (occasionally Death style) metal filled with melancholy and grandeur, twiddly bits, filligree lightness, super-heavy riffing, epicness and so on puts steam in your strides, I'd heartily recommend them. If any of the above has you sticking your fingers down your throat then best avoided. I loves 'em v much meself; but I wouldn't say they would be everyone's cuppa rosy. The new album, however, is pretty much metal-free prog!
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machineryelf 3681 posts |
Sep 26, 2011, 15:18
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IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: ta for that,sounds again like she is in need of a decent producer/editor again but for different reasons this time, think I'll wait for it to turn up cheap on amazon.Like the John Cale idea though, probably do them both good, certainly more appealing than than Reed/Metallica If DG really did commission this album from here then I don't know what they were thinking. She probably needed someone from maybe the opera world to help us through this. read the press blurb on this, didn't realise it was on DG and therefore a ''serious'' release, by fuck there is some old bollocks talked about there, reminds me of all the nonsense everyone came up with Jon Lord and his Concerto for Blackmore to solo loudly over the trumpets. Still they are trying I suppose, still going to wait for it to turn up cheap though
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drewbhoy 2559 posts |
Sep 26, 2011, 15:21
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Moon Cat wrote: drewbhoy wrote: You seem to mention Opeth a lot. Are they any good? It entirely depends on what floats your boat Sir. If the idea of progressive (occasionally Death style) metal filled with melancholy and grandeur, twiddly bits, filligree lightness, super-heavy riffing, epicness and so on puts steam in your strides, I'd heartily recommend them. If any of the above has you sticking your fingers down your throat then best avoided. I loves 'em v much meself; but I wouldn't say they would be everyone's cuppa rosy. Sounds like a description of Faith No More's Angel Dust. If it is that good I'll love them. Looks like a purchase coming up.
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2011, 15:26
Sep 26, 2011, 15:22
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machineryelf wrote: IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: ta for that,sounds again like she is in need of a decent producer/editor again but for different reasons this time, think I'll wait for it to turn up cheap on amazon.Like the John Cale idea though, probably do them both good, certainly more appealing than than Reed/Metallica If DG really did commission this album from here then I don't know what they were thinking. She probably needed someone from maybe the opera world to help us through this. read the press blurb on this, didn't realise it was on DG and therefore a ''serious'' release, by fuck there is some old bollocks talked about there, reminds me of all the nonsense everyone came up with Jon Lord and his Concerto for Blackmore to solo loudly over the trumpets. Still they are trying I suppose, still going to wait for it to turn up cheap though I would do that for sure. The problem with classical labels dipping their toes is that they do not know the rock world and respond under the auspices of a big-name-equals-big-sales theory. I doubt they really understand how rock and pop listeners respond to music and what turns them on and why. Especially in the art rock area. It's not a pretentious record (not as pretentious as the pr babble), it's just not a very well thought-through one.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2011, 15:53
Sep 26, 2011, 15:29
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drewbhoy wrote: Moon Cat wrote: drewbhoy wrote: You seem to mention Opeth a lot. Are they any good? It entirely depends on what floats your boat Sir. If the idea of progressive (occasionally Death style) metal filled with melancholy and grandeur, twiddly bits, filligree lightness, super-heavy riffing, epicness and so on puts steam in your strides, I'd heartily recommend them. If any of the above has you sticking your fingers down your throat then best avoided. I loves 'em v much meself; but I wouldn't say they would be everyone's cuppa rosy. Sounds like a description of Faith No More's Angel Dust. If it is that good I'll love them. Looks like a purchase coming up. They are a bit more steeped in classic euro-metal than Faith No More (Great album that BTW), and there's a scandonavian Melancholy present - they're Swedish! Albums I'd recommend to a newbie are "Ghost Reveries", "Watershed" and "Blackwater Park". Not trying to put you off; far from it - just wouldnt want you to think you're getting a FNM alike when it IS eclectic but not in the same way. Must say though, their gig last year at the Albert Hall (v posh I know) was one of the best things that's happened to me. Agog with metal majesty I was!
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PMM 3155 posts |
Sep 26, 2011, 16:08
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What's Gillian Welch's latest like then? Worth a listen?
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1001realapes 2389 posts |
Sep 26, 2011, 16:45
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PMM wrote: What's Gillian Welch's latest like then? Worth a listen? Absolutely !
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machineryelf 3681 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2011, 17:13
Sep 26, 2011, 17:01
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IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: ta for that,sounds again like she is in need of a decent producer/editor again but for different reasons this time, think I'll wait for it to turn up cheap on amazon.Like the John Cale idea though, probably do them both good, certainly more appealing than than Reed/Metallica If DG really did commission this album from here then I don't know what they were thinking. She probably needed someone from maybe the opera world to help us through this. read the press blurb on this, didn't realise it was on DG and therefore a ''serious'' release, by fuck there is some old bollocks talked about there, reminds me of all the nonsense everyone came up with Jon Lord and his Concerto for Blackmore to solo loudly over the trumpets. Still they are trying I suppose, still going to wait for it to turn up cheap though I would do that for sure. The problem with classical labels dipping their toes is that they do not know the rock world and respond under the auspices of a big-name-equals-big-sales theory. I doubt they really understand how rock and pop listeners respond to music and what turns them on and why. Especially in the art rock area. It's not a pretentious record (not as pretentious as the pr babble), it's just not a very well thought-through one. Didn't realise she was still pretty much a top ten chart contender, DG must have been well pleased to pick this up, It will surely be a huge seller on their terms whatever happens. It looks like a good idea on paper but as has happened before that doesn't always translate well in the real world. edit have any classical/rock crossovers ever been successful, bar a kronos quartet cover of an Aphex Twin tune I can't think of any that don't make you think oof!square peg/round hole
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2011, 17:27
Sep 26, 2011, 17:24
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machineryelf wrote: IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: IanB wrote: machineryelf wrote: ta for that,sounds again like she is in need of a decent producer/editor again but for different reasons this time, think I'll wait for it to turn up cheap on amazon.Like the John Cale idea though, probably do them both good, certainly more appealing than than Reed/Metallica If DG really did commission this album from here then I don't know what they were thinking. She probably needed someone from maybe the opera world to help us through this. read the press blurb on this, didn't realise it was on DG and therefore a ''serious'' release, by fuck there is some old bollocks talked about there, reminds me of all the nonsense everyone came up with Jon Lord and his Concerto for Blackmore to solo loudly over the trumpets. Still they are trying I suppose, still going to wait for it to turn up cheap though I would do that for sure. The problem with classical labels dipping their toes is that they do not know the rock world and respond under the auspices of a big-name-equals-big-sales theory. I doubt they really understand how rock and pop listeners respond to music and what turns them on and why. Especially in the art rock area. It's not a pretentious record (not as pretentious as the pr babble), it's just not a very well thought-through one. Didn't realise she was still pretty much a top ten chart contender, DG must have been well pleased to pick this up, It will surely be a huge seller on their terms whatever happens. It looks like a good idea on paper but as has happened before that doesn't always translate well in the real world. edit have any classical/rock crossovers ever been successful, bar a kronos quartet cover of an Aphex Twin tune I can't think of any that don't make you think oof!square peg/round hole the philip glass "low" and heroes symphonies were pretty successful musically I thought but mostly it doesn't come off. there are plenty of heavily orchestrated rock records that work but they aren't really records with a strong classical element to them they borrow from classical but no, they aren't a true collaboration between the two arts. even the collabs between minimalist classical music and dance have been a bit bolted together.
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Kid Calamity 9048 posts |
Sep 26, 2011, 17:48
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keith a wrote: A Paw Of Fur, An Air Of Doom – Marc Bolan / T.Rex Great Hits From The Box (When I Need TV I Got T.Rex Vol 1) - Marc Bolan / T.Rex The 1st is a right mixed bag that I bought back in the 90’s – rarities, demo’s, previously unreleased tracks, etc, whilst the 2nd is audio versions of T.Rex telly performances. Erm, me too. Too busy to type up albums like 'La Folie' by The Stranglers and all the others I've been absorbing. I'll try and do a full one next weekend, perhaps. Peeeyowm >
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