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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited May 11, 2011, 17:55
May 11, 2011, 17:54
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I have a lot of like for Floyd but can't quite crank it up to 'love'. For me there's so much that settles into a mid to slow tempo plod and they never really seem to cut loose that much and it annoys me. So many times I've listened to albums and enjoyed them, but at the same time, there's an inner voice shouting "Go faster! Go madder! Go absolutely insane. Just take off the brakes and go bloody mental!!!" But they never do. Oh well.
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 11, 2011, 17:59
May 11, 2011, 17:58
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Moon Cat wrote: There's an inner voice shouting "Go faster! Go madder! Go absolutely insane. Just take off the brakes and go bloody mental!!!" But they never do. Oh well. Well that's hit the Home and Gardens nail on the Public School educated head but they are still the best Pink Floyd type band there has ever been which is no small achievement. That was also pretty much Seb's "review" of the Dunes on stage IIRC. Probably not wrong either. Though if you aren't collectively mental the worst thing is to fake it. So props to the Floyd for not going that-a-way post Syd. Would have been easier to phone in the psych babble than go the way they went I reckon.
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zphage 3378 posts |
Edited May 11, 2011, 18:05
May 11, 2011, 18:04
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Moon Cat wrote: I have a lot of like for Floyd but can't quite crank it up to 'love'. For me there's so much that settles into a mid to slow tempo plod and they never really seem to cut loose that much and it annoys me. So many times I've listened to albums and enjoyed them, but at the same time, there's an inner voice shouting "Go faster! Go madder! Go absolutely insane. Just take off the brakes and go bloody mental!!!" But they never do. Oh well. true, I think this why preDSOTM live shows are so prized, because they do get hairy also the Zabriskie Point soundtrack and outtakes are worth a listen but overall floyd get rhythmically inert
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
May 11, 2011, 18:07
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Piper. Lucifer Sam. The only recorded evidence of a cat growling via a guitar solo. Utter genius. Pictures in sound.
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Dog 3000 4611 posts |
May 12, 2011, 19:55
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Their early covers are all quite fun & unique -- "I See You" (Crosby/Byrds), "Every Little Thing" (proggoBeatles!) and "America" (Simon & Garfunkel!!)
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Dog 3000 4611 posts |
Edited May 12, 2011, 20:05
May 12, 2011, 19:59
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As zphage also said, Floyd did get "hairy" jams going in their pre-concept album days (at least through Meddle/Live at Pompeii.) The "midtempo/rhythmically intert" thing is a bit unfair -- I think one of their greatest strengths was RESTRAINT. I used to think Mason was a crap drummer -- surely no Bonham or Moon (and don't call me SHirley!) -- but now dig that he is really more of a krautrocker than a "british classic rock" drummer. Immaculate tasteful timekeeping. When Floyd does "rock out" it's all the more dramatic for the epic build that precedes it. ANIMALS maaaan . . . . and check out the Pompeii movie if you've never seen it! It's no masterpiece, but the best sequences are as iconic and amazing as any "rock film" I've ever seen. My favorite bit starts 6:25 into this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646KtkEcPm8
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Deepinder Cheema 1972 posts |
Edited May 12, 2011, 20:19
May 12, 2011, 20:13
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Dog 3000 wrote: As zphage also said, Floyd did get "hairy" jams going in their pre-concept album days (at least through Meddle/Live at Pompeii.) The "midtempo/rhythmically intert" thing is a bit unfair -- I think one of their greatest strengths was RESTRAINT. I used to think Mason was a crap drummer -- surely no Bonham or Moon (and don't call me SHirley!) -- but now dig that he is really more of a krautrocker than a "british classic rock" drummer. Immaculate tasteful timekeeping. When Floyd does "rock out" it's all the more dramatic for the epic build that precedes it. ANIMALS maaaan . . . . and check out the Pompeii movie if you've never seen it! It's no masterpiece, but the best sequences are as iconic and amazing as any "rock film" I've ever seen. My favorite bit starts 6:25 into this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646KtkEcPm8 Do you rekon the music at 6:25 is an edit? It is funny that at that moment those panned WEM cabs with Pink Floyd London stencilled at back was being talked about in Stonehouse Glos where one of them lives. PF chucked them out in the mid 70's. I recall OGWT in about '83 where for some reason P.Gambacinni was being asked about rock films and this one made him sleepy.
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 12, 2011, 21:11
May 12, 2011, 21:07
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Dog 3000 wrote: As zphage also said, Floyd did get "hairy" jams going in their pre-concept album days (at least through Meddle/Live at Pompeii.) The "midtempo/rhythmically intert" thing is a bit unfair -- I think one of their greatest strengths was RESTRAINT. I used to think Mason was a crap drummer -- surely no Bonham or Moon (and don't call me SHirley!) -- but now dig that he is really more of a krautrocker than a "british classic rock" drummer. Immaculate tasteful timekeeping. When Floyd does "rock out" it's all the more dramatic for the epic build that precedes it. ANIMALS maaaan . . . . and check out the Pompeii movie if you've never seen it! It's no masterpiece, but the best sequences are as iconic and amazing as any "rock film" I've ever seen. My favorite bit starts 6:25 into this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646KtkEcPm8 All totally true. Restraint is an under valued trait. The version of Echoes in the Pompeii movie is probably my all time favourite rock-on-film performance. Mason is the best Pink Floyd type drummer like Ringo is the best Beatles type drummer. Utterly inimitable. And it is not like Rog was much of a bass player either in terms of flash. Rick Wright is also wondefully under stated and Gilmour is a bit of a two-trick merchant but when it is all combined it is magic. Leagues ahead of the lets-all-go-mental-with-the-oil-wheel stuff. As for Animals. Possibly their best record. Their last record of real relevance to their English origins. After that it all goes very mid Atlantic. Just a shame that Waters couldn't find that kind of edge and sheer musical mean spiritedness when making Amused To Death. All bile and no grace unfortunately as the first ten minutes of ATD promises something in that class.
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The Sea Cat 3608 posts |
Edited May 13, 2011, 08:50
May 13, 2011, 08:49
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I wonder if they'll reform. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pink-floyd-reunite-at-roger-waters-show-in-london-20110512 Nick Mason would like to see them as a performing unit again for special charity events etc. I doubt they'll record again, which could only be a good thing. I think Gilmour's Floyd was godawful cack, and so Rog would have to take the helm. Hmm....well, he has cheered up a bit....
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IanB 6761 posts |
May 13, 2011, 08:53
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The Sea Cat wrote: I wonder if they'll reform. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/pink-floyd-reunite-at-roger-waters-show-in-london-20110512 Nick Mason would like to see them as a performing unit again for special charity events etc. I doubt they'll record again, which could only be a good thing. I think Gilmour's Floyd was godawful cack, and so Rog would have to take the helm. Hmm....well, he has cheered up a bit.... The Floyd show circa 94 looked amazing but was as dull as ditch water apart from Sam Brown and a nice Wish You Were Here. The recent Water DSotM tour was leagues ahead musically but a bit rubbish visually. Ironic give that DG, Wright and Mason were supposed to be the musicians and Waters the grand conceptualist.
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