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singingringingtree 964 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 10:33
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CRASS even tho there's a slight effort to integrate /em now, w/ the CD remastering treatment + all that, but i don't think we'll be hearing jarvis cocker drop "reality asylum" into his radio show any time soon |
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IanB 6761 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 10:51
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singingringingtree wrote: CRASS even tho there's a slight effort to integrate /em now, w/ the CD remastering treatment + all that, but i don't think we'll be hearing jarvis cocker drop "reality asylum" into his radio show any time soon Ha! I thought of them yesterday while watching Alan Davies' programme on C4 re his radical late 70s / early 80s youth. Strange song that one but hey, they were extreme times. And not of our making.
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thesweetcheat 6218 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 15:55
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machineryelf wrote: Having a rant about Islam seems to work, Mr Cope made a comment about Islam last night and there was an audible intake of breath from the audience He followed it up with a reasonably balanced and witty explanation but the initial statement hit a nerve Hope he didn't mention sub-species. :-)
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machineryelf 3681 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 16:34
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Having a rant about Islam seems to work, Mr Cope made a comment about Islam last night and there was an audible intake of breath from the audience He followed it up with a reasonably balanced and witty explanation but the initial statement hit a nerve
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Popel Vooje 5373 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 16:44
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IanB wrote: Popel Vooje wrote: Some of the more extreme Japanese improvisers like Keiji Haino and Musioca Transonic still haven't been assimilated into the mainstream, and given the nature of their music I doubt they ever will be. Per my reply immediately above I expected the Zorn related artists to get much more of a mention. Maybe that makes them even more the outsiders! Ah, I see now - I missed that post due to skim-reading the thread on my lunchbreak, but I agree - Mr Haino's work still seems to confound and irritate most people I know, even those who are musicians. One of my ex-bandmates still refuses to believe that his entire career is anything other than an elaborate joke. Having said that, I think there is humour in his work - I can't imagine that a man who refuses to take off his sunglasses even in front of his cat, or writes pieces with titles like "Once Again I Cast Myself Into the Flames of Atonement" takes himself entirely seriously.
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Popel Vooje 5373 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 18:36
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IanB wrote: singingringingtree wrote: CRASS even tho there's a slight effort to integrate /em now, w/ the CD remastering treatment + all that, but i don't think we'll be hearing jarvis cocker drop "reality asylum" into his radio show any time soon Ha! I thought of them yesterday while watching Alan Davies' programme on C4 re his radical late 70s / early 80s youth. Strange song that one but hey, they were extreme times. And not of our making. Politically speaking, you'd think the time would be ripe for a re-union right now, wouldn't you?! I did read that Steve Ignorant had hooked up with a buynch of other musicians to play a set of crass songs at Shephers Bush Empire but that none of the other original members opted to participate - which shows they've still got integrity at least.
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zphage 3378 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 19:21
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Terry Riley's In C was booed when he played Europe in '69, most of the European avant garde hated it. So look around, listen and see what we hate, there in lies the revolution...
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thesweetcheat 6218 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 19:55
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vivid wrote: And so much for Pete the Poet. I was reading a Mojo review for Babyshambles' Shotter's Nation album fairly recently and was amazed to read, "...The grim social comment in Baddies Boogie ("A lousy life for a washed-up wife/And a permanently plastered pissed-up bastard") doesn't match highpoints of yore, but as an echo of what Doherty used to excel at, it's nice to hear..." So I gets me 1988 The Oi! of Sex LP out and there's Nick Toczeck's Britanarchists, singing "It's a lousy life for the washed-up wife/ A lousy life for the washed-up wife/With a permanently plastered/Permanently plastered/Pissed-up pissed-up bastard bastard" etc. Bastard! That's a shocker. Someone should sue (although he's probably quite good in court room scenarios, so maybe they won't win).
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vivid 103 posts |
Sep 24, 2010, 20:19
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Kid Calamity wrote: IanB wrote: I just don't want to be told that music is revolutionary when it isn't. I just don't 'get' The Libertines*. I refuse the believe they are really breaking the mould and have a new approach. I think it's a poor copy of an old approach, personally. *Good band name, though. But even that isn't quite original. And so much for Pete the Poet. I was reading a Mojo review for Babyshambles' Shotter's Nation album fairly recently and was amazed to read, "...The grim social comment in Baddies Boogie ("A lousy life for a washed-up wife/And a permanently plastered pissed-up bastard") doesn't match highpoints of yore, but as an echo of what Doherty used to excel at, it's nice to hear..." So I gets me 1988 The Oi! of Sex LP out and there's Nick Toczeck's Britanarchists, singing "It's a lousy life for the washed-up wife/ A lousy life for the washed-up wife/With a permanently plastered/Permanently plastered/Pissed-up pissed-up bastard bastard" etc. Bastard!
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Stevo 6664 posts |
Sep 25, 2010, 10:20
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Somebody did a much more 'acceptable' lp of Crass covers a couple of years back didn't they? Think I heard about some commercial use of that stuff, not sure though. also got a nagging thought that somebody really commercialised influence taken pretty much straight from The Residents but can't think more specifically right now. Flying Lizards? who I think have been used to s/trk ads. Stevo
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