machineryelf
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Re: Revolutions are celebrated when they are no longer dangerous
Sep 22, 2010, 21:25
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thesweetcheat wrote:
I have to say that this sounds horrible, largely. If today's revolution is to reduce everything that's ever been recorded into a single melange, I'm not sure I want any truck with it, sadly.
but that what makes it good, it's not a single melange, you can throw in a pop chorus to your thrash song and no one screams sellout, throw a freejazz insert into your ambientnoodle and it sounds brilliant, no one wants to be a punkrocker anymore, a metalhead or a poptart,it may not be as much fun in one way, and it also encourages a revolting holier than thou hipster elite, but if it gives you
to quote Dog3000
As always seems to be the case, certain labels lead the way: NOT NOT FUN is the big one today in my mind. Sun Araw, Magic Lantern, Pocahaunted, High Wolf, Ducktails, Wet Hair, Peaking Lights, and lots more.
Lots of other indie labels, some of them tiny, often still putting out CASSETTES: Cabin Floor Esoterica, Night People, Earjerk, Bum Tapes, Woodsist, Siltbreeze.
The Drone Scene (the ambient end of power electronics?): Emeralds, Expo '70, Drunjus, Natural Snow Buildings.
The Noise/PE scene (it's still called "noise" where I'm from): a million angry kids blowing heads off with electronic gear in every city! Would I be wrong to say Wolf Eyes is the most mainstream artist representing this world?
"Commune bands": Sylvester Anfang II, Gnod, Second Family Band (formerly Davenport) -- probably one of these in every city.
Neo-outsider folk: this might have peaked earlier in the last decade (Devendra Whatsisname?), but it's still a big phenomenon. All those individuals & duos that draw inspiration from non-rock sources like Incredible String Band (UK) and John Fahey (USA).
MV & EE seem to work the space in between "neo-folk" and "commune style" (a commune of 2?)
The Great Pop Crossover Hope: Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti has grown from a guy with a 4-track into a real band and signed to the 4AD label.
who am I to argue
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thesweetcheat
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Re: Revolutions are celebrated when they are no longer dangerous
Sep 22, 2010, 21:25
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machineryelf wrote: thesweetcheat wrote:
Thanks Elf, you are making it sound less unappealing. The proof, as ever, is in the listening, so perhaps some kind of Mojo-esque recordings list, as Ian originally mentioned, is required?
which kinda defeats Ian's original post, he's right again, it's hard to be dangerous these days
I'll get me coat.
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Dog 3000
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Edited Sep 22, 2010, 21:34
Labelous!
Sep 22, 2010, 21:32
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I have heard the terms "chill wave" and "hypnogogic pop" used to describe the New Scene.
Both horrible! I reject!
PS - WAVVES is another artist on the Pop Crossover Hope list (stuff is out on Subpop I think?) But I am not impressed.
There will be pop-knockoffs as always. (Tiny Masters Of Today are a cute one that kinda works.)
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Dog 3000
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Re: Listing the New Names
Sep 22, 2010, 21:37
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I think there's another whole corner inspired by "black metal" -- but I am not into that stuff (not since Cliff died!) so couldn't give you many names.
I think I heard "STRYBORG" somewhere, if that's how you spell it . . .
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machineryelf
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Re: Listing the New Names
Sep 22, 2010, 21:47
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that's an impressive list
can I add the Aural Hypnox crowd to that
http://www.auralhypnox.com/
and although hardly new the various Campbell Kneale bands [although he seems to have lost the plot recently],Shisou No Fune,High Mountain Tempel and the host of dronemetalexperimental stuff that revolves/evolves from the O'Malley/Plotkin axis, can you include Boris as new? It seems to me that the borders are now so blurred it's easier to just include everything in the catchall that is rock or you start getting bogged down in genre definition.
If you want I'll call it good music as opposed to the Jonas Bros who re obviously bad [ but also possibly rock]
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Dog 3000
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Re: Listing the New Names
Sep 22, 2010, 21:52
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And also! NEW AGE is a big secret influence! Prince Rama of Ayodha, Spiral Joy Band (the former being tangential to "rock" and the latter "drone".) Plus a zillion kids getting mellow in their bedrooms . . .
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Dog 3000
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Re: Labelous!
Sep 22, 2010, 21:53
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Amen!!!
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Dog 3000
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Re: Listing the New Names
Sep 22, 2010, 21:53
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Yes, please add more names (everybody!)
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machineryelf
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Re: Listing the New Names
Sep 22, 2010, 21:55
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Dog 3000 wrote: I think there's another whole corner inspired by "black metal" -- but I am not into that stuff (not since Cliff died!) so couldn't give you many names.
I think I heard "STRYBORG" somewhere, if that's how you spell it . . .
Striborg, probably comes under Commune along with Cascadian Black Metal and Aluk Todolo
Amber Asylum come to mind for some reason, probably because I'm trying to think of genre straddling bands
& Swans, where do they fit in, along with Jarboe
Still lots of good music, as you say maybe the best since the 80s but not a united scene, in the 80s Altrock was Black Flag,Triffids, Birthday Party, The Pastels,Walking Seeds as long as it wasn't Whitney. I don't think many people would thankyou for calling them Altrock these days
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machineryelf
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Re: Revolutions are celebrated when they are no longer dangerous
Sep 22, 2010, 21:59
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thesweetcheat wrote:
Thanks Elf, you are making it sound less unappealing. The proof, as ever, is in the listening, so perhaps some kind of Mojo-esque recordings list, as Ian originally mentioned, is required?
which kinda defeats Ian's original post, he's right again, it's hard to be dangerous these days
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