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Edited Feb 26, 2015, 14:01
Re: Joey Barton - If I were PM...
Feb 26, 2015, 09:02
grufty jim wrote:
this mythopoetry is the glue that holds together our society. It is the mechanism we use to transmit important truths and values. It is where we learn about The Sacred.

Now, the literal historical "truth" of these stories is irrelevant. This is where the fundamentalists get it all wrong (along with a whole bunch of the New Atheists who seem willing to make exactly the same category error as the fundies and discuss mythopoetry as though historical accuracy was in any way relevant to it). Just as there can be Truth in Beauty, though finding "Facts" there might be tough.

One of the many examples Bateson uses is the parable of The Last Supper. He points out that he has no idea if a guy called Jesus sat down with 12 other folks on a given night as reported in the gospels. And to fixate on whether it happened, rather than examine the message of the story is bizarre (and arguably irrational and even a bit dangerous given the cultural repercussions).


Indeed or even Amen.

One of the least attractive habits of commentators on the political left is their eagerness to kick those that they see as the naively credulous for their lack of rigor, citing absence of proof and the failure of religious belief (and non traditional medicine for that matter) to stand up to scientific examination. This apparently makes believers doubly culpable for a host of social evils. Talk about the left seeking traitors and the right seeking converts.

Labour might not "do God" but they could do a lot worse than find a little more of the Socialism in Jesus and (more importantly) vice versa. It is not as if the Anglican church isn't demonstrating plenty of willingness to meet them half way.

What Bateson could a time-poor non-specialist non-academic read without getting lost do you think?
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