Robot Emperor
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 16:03
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handofdave wrote: To refocus, tho, on the killing of comic satirists... No amount of objective rationalizing is going to convince me that those murders have a shred of justification.
Its an attempt to provoke, to goad a further erosion of our values that these people find abhorrent.
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Robot Emperor
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 16:07
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Robot Emperor wrote: handofdave wrote: To refocus, tho, on the killing of comic satirists... No amount of objective rationalizing is going to convince me that those murders have a shred of justification.
Its an attempt to provoke, to goad a further erosion of our values that these people find abhorrent.
If this is a war of values they are winning as we are abandoning ours and adopting theirs.
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billding68
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 16:52
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Lawrence wrote: I find this despicable and I hope those responsible find out they're going to hell when they die.
I much prefer the idea of sending them there 1st class
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handofdave
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 17:02
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Robot Emperor wrote: Robot Emperor wrote: handofdave wrote: To refocus, tho, on the killing of comic satirists... No amount of objective rationalizing is going to convince me that those murders have a shred of justification.
Its an attempt to provoke, to goad a further erosion of our values that these people find abhorrent.
If this is a war of values they are winning as we are abandoning ours and adopting theirs.
I fear you are correct. And indeed, in some circles, this is already true... those who've tortured, those who've cheered on the deaths of hundreds of thousands caught in the maelstrom... Hardline Israeli settlers, and the militants of Hamas certainly know this tactic... push people far enough, they will lash out... and then they can point fingers and say "See? They are animals! Animals who don't deserve to live!"
Vicious circle....
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billding68
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 18:02
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Im just glad others have decided to speak theyre minds on this topic ive personally been put on blast many a time for not giving the proper P.C. bullshit responses to the issue of Islamic terror actions. Meaning rather than blame myself or my country for someone else's action I blame the perpetrator of the action themselves, which in some circles is considered hatred.
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Deepinder Cheema
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Edited Jan 08, 2015, 18:13
Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 08, 2015, 18:13
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A few years ago there was constant news about the viscous mayhem in Algeria. Perhaps with the evolving nature of this story that this is a manifestaton of that poisonous aftermath bunged in with what has been happening since Algeria of 15 - 20 years ago spread to other parts of the middle east and now back in France again. It is complete bollocks men like Farage are insinuating a 5th Column or multi culturism is to blame less than 12 hours after the atrocity
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Captain Starlet
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 10, 2015, 16:03
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Can't say I disagree with that
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Captain Starlet
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 10, 2015, 16:05
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Really interesting article by Will Self. Agree, disagree, whatever certainly gave me something to think about
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/will-self-charlie-hebdo-attack-the-west-satire-france-terror-105
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Captain Starlet
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 10, 2015, 16:17
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There's one constant you can always rely on when these things occur. People like farage will always be a cunt!
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Captain Starlet
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Re: Jihadists meet satire with bullets
Jan 10, 2015, 16:24
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I see where you're coming from there, and I do agree. I see the attacks in the west as a result of our own actions though. The powers that be in the west, primarily the US and UK, have essentially painted huge targets on the countries and on the people who live there. If you rattle people up, attack their countries and values it's obvious there's going to be reprisals, such is always the case.
For attacks in our own countries we can't blame the people who we've bullied and stolen from for decades for getting pissed off eventually.
Luckily these people do represent the very small minority of people who join these groups, I won't compliment them by calling them Muslims as they're about as Muslim as I am the King of England!
Aren't IS the group the US were supporting in Syria?
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