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Locodogz 254 posts |
Sep 26, 2006, 13:32
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Allegedly....;)
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Leonard 359 posts |
Edited Sep 26, 2006, 13:54
Sep 26, 2006, 13:53
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Nope, I answered that one, and plenty of structural engineers have answered the other points. If you want a worthwhile conspiracy theory then the fact that the last two US elections were rigged is it. The discrepancy between exit polls and actual votes counted is huge, much larger than any of the possible mathematical methods used to calculate margin of error. IIRC in one place the exit poll said 60% Kerry and the votes said 30%. Even given peoples possible lying to hide the fact they've voted for the greater loony again (which we actually had here in the UK during Majors election) that is a massive discrepancy.
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dee 1955 posts |
Sep 26, 2006, 14:15
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So whatever you say goes does it, great!
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Leonard 359 posts |
Sep 26, 2006, 14:35
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don't be silly. I'm just saying try and be rational. Assuming there is always a conspiracy is really, really dumb. I'm quite ok with the idea that I could be totally hatstand, but at least I look at something from every angle before talking. also I dont babble rampant bollo on subjects I'm not personally qualified to talk about.
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dee 1955 posts |
Sep 26, 2006, 15:28
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I dont always think there is a conspiracy, as i said before im trying to keep an open mind, i dont want to play anymore, im bailing out!!
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jshell 333 posts |
Sep 26, 2006, 16:13
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dee wrote: Dont be silly now.... Well, you started it: dee wrote: I would keep an open mind on this....just one websites opinion.....ive seen plenty of evidence to suggest that it was an inside job... J
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dee 1955 posts |
Sep 27, 2006, 11:18
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Zzzzzzz.....
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Locodogz 254 posts |
Sep 27, 2006, 11:28
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?????.......
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embryonomore 853 posts |
Oct 12, 2006, 15:55
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I've yet to see a debunking theory which accounts for the stock put-ons at UA, the impact hole sizes at the pentagon and the claims that many of the hijackers are still alive and have voiced discontent with blame landing at there feet. Furthermore, no-one can explain why the lease holder on WTC7 (the lesser reported 3rd tower to fall) disclosed in a radio interview that he made the decision to pull the building in a controlled demolition. Apparently weeks of demolition planning took place on one day with chaos ensuing all around. Fishy. Then look at the insurance pay offs... I'm sure there are many other uncovered aspects. The key issue here for me however is not "America actioned 911", I know that is not true, however the involvement level of US interests and the apparent prior knowledge from certain individuals is what needs to be ascertained. It is apparent that some people in the US did know it was going to happen, and the extent of their involvement is the question. It's not a case of the entire government being involved, it's a case of a few Americans - potentially within government, being complicit in a terrorist attack and therefore guilty of treason. Considering the Bush families close ties with the Bin Laden family, that seems the obvious place to ask questions first. In short, it's very easy to debunk the "9-11 self inflicted" case. It is less than easy to debunk the "Certain Americans complicit in 9-11" case. I'll still be waiting for the knock em dead debunker though, because I'll sleep better then.
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caramelsauce 24 posts |
Oct 12, 2006, 17:51
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I'm sure there are many other uncovered aspects. The key issue here for me however is not "America actioned 911", I know that is not true, however the involvement level of US interests and the apparent prior knowledge from certain individuals is what needs to be ascertained. It is apparent that some people in the US did know it was going to happen, and the extent of their involvement is the question. It's not a case of the entire government being involved, it's a case of a few Americans - potentially within government, being complicit in a terrorist attack and therefore guilty of treason. Considering the Bush families close ties with the Bin Laden family, that seems the obvious place to ask questions first. In short, it's very easy to debunk the "9-11 self inflicted" case. It is less than easy to debunk the "Certain Americans complicit in 9-11" case. I'll still be waiting for the knock em dead debunker though, because I'll sleep better then.[/quote] It's clear that US secret services were expecting an attack of some sort - certainly no-one has denied this, and given the previous attacks in Africa and on the USS Cole Al-Qaida had been developing it's attacks in terms of scale and impact. I don't see how this means you can be sure members of the American government, or others had prior knowledge. I think it's signifigant that the US had experienced only two previous acts of terror - admittedly on on the WTC, by radical Muslims, the other Timothy McVeigh. Could it be that institutions like the CIA/FBI are very bearaucratic until such attacks occur? Look at how succesful other terrorist groups have been in avoiding capture and still carrying out attacks of varying degrees of signifigance. Baider-Meinhoff, ETA, and the IRA. Are you going to claim that the British government had kwowledge of the plans to blow up the Natwest building? That Thatcher knew they were going to bomb the Grand Hotel? How did Baider-Meinhoff escape evasion for so long? The fact that 9/11 is still talked about so much is because of it's very impact, because it was so shocking and unexpected. (And yes, the foolishness of Western governments reactions is a big factor.) How shocked were you when you saw those planes hit the towers? The point about the insurance payments - i'm sure that they were insured for a huge amount, whatever they received just bear in mind that the super-rich are very good at looking after their own.
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