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tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 19:27
If you talk the amount of crap as you do and anyone points out it you are bound to be feel patronised .

So you did avoid yet another question " What is skewed about my version of Irish history ?"
And another from the same post .
What about the the give away, "apparently " , don't you know or did that come from some one else ?
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 19:32
No music was referenced .
That obviously was not the point .
The reference was to a figure who might be perceived as not belonging to the category of Irish Traveller , just like you .
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 19:42
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 20:26
tiompan wrote:
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .


Quite.
tjj
tjj
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 20:28
tiompan wrote:
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .


Its quite a while since anyone was thrown off the forum - the Eds are very tolerant. I personally just wanted him to shut up and stop the irrational, unwarranted abuse. Its his loss.
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 20:37
tjj wrote:
tiompan wrote:
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .


Its quite a while since anyone was thrown off the forum - the Eds are very tolerant. I personally just wanted him to shut up and stop the irrational, unwarranted abuse. Its his loss.



I have never suggested anyone should get chucked off or ask them to leave.

It's probably best to ignore them ,after all there is never a discussion ,no matter how hard you try to turn it round to one , it's just abuse . But I don't think you should just put up with it , just because they can get away with it , if only for a while .
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 20:38
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .


Quite.




Ahh , you noticed too . I thought I was maybe thinking like them .
Evergreen Dazed
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Edited Feb 14, 2017, 22:05
Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 14, 2017, 21:45
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:
I may be wrong but there are indications that some mug carries the can , albeit happily , whilst it was others that handed it to them .


Quite.




Ahh , you noticed too . I thought I was maybe thinking like them .


Aye, quite clear to me.
tjj
tjj
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 15, 2017, 10:40
tjj wrote:
tiompan wrote:
The jargon /tech terminology has an oft heard definition for the results of endogamy . One impact in this case is the prevalence of galactosaemia .


What a shame this subject has been hijacked by someone with an axe to grind.
My friend from Derry is over at present and visited me this afternoon so I asked her about this. She told me the oral tradition is that in 1603 when James I came to the throne he started to implement the plantations in Ulster. The Irish clans or Gaelic Irish decided to rise up and traveled down to Kinsale to meet the French who were supposed to be helping them (around 1607). The French never arrived due to bad weather and the Gaelic Irish were routed. This resulted in the Flight of the Earls when all the leaders fled to France and Spain. The Gaelic Irish clans were left leaderless so took to the roads and became travellers. I think the paper you posted the link to does make reference to this history and sets out to prove scientifically there is no ancestoral link with the Roma. The conversation with my friend helped to clarify this in lay-person's terms.


I know its off topic but am catching up on Irish history, it was never taught at school. Didn't know about the Flight of the Earls until yesterday though there seems to be a crossover with the Gunpowder Plot. A couple of links below for anyone interested.

http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/flight-earls

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/history-heritage/history-of-ireland/the-flight-of-the-earls-1/
spencer
spencer
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Re: Irish Travellers .
Feb 15, 2017, 12:30
Right so
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