Martin
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female view points
Oct 23, 2002, 17:16
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fnarr fanrr
I'll get my coat- it's time to go home!
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pixie
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 17:37
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golly! posted hello Blaidd, then read all this! sounds like you've had a roough ride in an introduction but well done you for replying so well, i have had afew run ins at first and i legged it and refused to play for ages! (not by anyone here i might add)
i think all points have been valid, i have left offerings once or twice, a few flowers already trampled on . corn, etc, stuff from around the site, as rhiannon says because sometimes you do want to give thanks to SOMETHING and i guess in our society, so wrapped up in our past and links with Christianity, and ritual and having to DO something to show thanks i guess sometimes a smile doesn't feel enough, however, as i visited more sites and come home with more and more rubbish i guess i agree with 4winds, and the others. the intent is very much honest and genuine, but if we all did it i guess it would look abit 'ugh!'
nature has a balance and who are we to upset it more than we already do. i feel that i now give thanks just by the joy and magic i feel in my heart, aaargh i sound abit trippy hippy there. i can't find the words to show how i feel which kind of sums it up really, nothing can ever express my wonder at the sites i visit, the wonder at the sky above, the land beneath my feet, the magic of the walk to get there (despite rabid farmers dogs, broken stiles, farmers making it difficlut etc. etc. etc.!!), my thanks stay in my head now, and everyone elses go back with me in my bin bag! but each to their own and your words are so nice to read that please dont think that i am sticking the boot in too! i 'm not!
dunno about the vibrating though?
ann summers party happenin anywhere ?
(sorry i'l get my coat again!)
peace
pixie
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FourWinds
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 17:45
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fookin' hippy!!!
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FourWinds
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 17:45
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Sorry ... forgot to add one of these
:-)
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Vybik Jon
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 17:48
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Don't know if it's got that far yet and anyway, how do you know Bob Chip is a hippy?
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Mr Hamhead
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Re: A less abrasive offering
Oct 23, 2002, 18:38
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I am glad that i am not the only one who finds offerings unacceptable. I was dismayed on my first visit to Sancreed well a couple of years ago to find it covered in "rubbish". The strangest thing? a yellow pokemon...very biodegradable...where are they now?
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RiotGibbon
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got off lightly
Oct 23, 2002, 21:21
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http://www.ravenfamily.org/sam/pag/sites/wayland.html
interesting ... did you leave cash as your "offering". That's the tradition (but you have to leave your horse too)
remember though, coins are bad, especially copper, as they can corrode the stones. Notes only, please.
RG
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The ASLaN Sacred Sites Charter
Please take care when visiting sacred sites to leave them as the next visitor would like to find them. Respect the land and all its inhabitants - spirits, people, animals, plants and stones.
Digging holes for any purpose will damage plants and probably insects and archaeological remains. Damaging any aspect of nature will not please the Spirit of Place. Damaging archaeology may upset the official guardians or owners of the site and lead to it being closed to all.
Lighting fires can cause similar damage to digging. A fire can damage standing stones - if they get too hot, they split. Fires can spread quickly in summer, killing wildlife, and it can be very difficult to make sure a fire is truly out. Heat, candle wax and graffiti damage moss and lichens which can take decades to recover. The Spirits of Place are more likely to be displeased at fire damage than upset that you haven't lit one.
If an offering seems appropriate please think about all its effects. Don't leave artificial materials. Choose your offerings carefully so that they can't be mistaken for litter. Please don't bury things. Please don't leave biodegradable materials that may be offensive as they decay. If the site is already overloaded with offerings consider the effects of adding more.
Please don't take anything, except litter, from a site. Much of the vegetation around sacred sites is unusual or rare so don't pick flowers. Don't take stones - they may be an important part of the site in ways which aren't obvious.
In times past it was traditional to leave no traces of any ritual because of persecution. This tradition is worth reviving because it shows reverence to nature and the Spirits of Place. Don't change the site, let the site change you.
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pixie
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 21:44
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aaargh!! just because we left chatroom at the same time doesn't mean we're the same person!!
;>))))
bloody hippies are everywhere!
p
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fitzcoraldo
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 21:48
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Hiya Baidd,
welcome to our fucked up little world.
Your vibrating could be down to infrasound.
The body naturally resonates at 4-5 Hz which is below the threshold of hearing. Thats my two penneth worth.
As for votive offerings, a large cloud of exhaled, fragrant smoke is generally accepted a reasonable offering.
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neighbourofthedrude
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Re: Waylands Smithy - Vibrating???
Oct 23, 2002, 23:44
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fuck me !!got a bit "handbaggy"in here today didn't it !!!blimey !!!
notd :oO
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