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Zariadris
Zariadris
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 18:10
Zariadris wrote:
wychburyman wrote:
Zariadris wrote:
wychburyman wrote:
Well said!


PS: are you based in Turkey BTW?


No, I'm just west of the Bosphorus, in Brooklyn, NY.


AH. It's just that I'm going to Istanbul later in the year


A wonderful place, warts and all. You'll have a great time.


...just don't forget your secret decoder ring for the revisionist tour guide histories.
The Hidden Corner
The Hidden Corner
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 30, 2013, 19:27
Received Revolutionary Suicide on Tuesday and have finally had time to play it. It sounded promising at the start and Julian has clearly put a lot of effort into the lyrics and the instrumentation. Unfortunately he hasn't put much effort into writing catchy hooky songs - which for me has always been his main appeal, even when confronting the listener over the last decade and a half with a lot of sludgy badly mastered musical product. I enjoyed Black Sheep, I even quite enjoyed Psychedelic Revolution. Having played the new release through once, however, there was nothing that made me want to hear it again. It's just dull and musically lacking in compositional inspiration. Glad that some others are enjoying it though.
Popel Vooje
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Edited May 30, 2013, 19:29
Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 30, 2013, 19:29
I'd second the recommendation. Saw them live a while back and they were pretty darned blinding for the most part.
jb lamptoast-morsley
jb lamptoast-morsley
2270 posts

Re: But Rave o lution is super!
May 30, 2013, 23:21
yeah - Youtubed some performance of it from 2011 many many times...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCuO_KksBQY
necropolist
necropolist
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 31, 2013, 15:59
got my copy yesterday. Only had a chance to listen to it twice (I've got people around now who really wouldnt appreciate an afternoons Copey) so havent taken it all in yet, but on first thoughts...

It's not exactly anything massively new and original, but its another solid addition to the collection. Whoever said it seemed to be poems set to music seems to have got it about right, ime. It does seem more about the lyrics than the music, much more so than on other albums. The music is good tho, sometimes a big too thin, and I too would like a 'proper' drummer, but its all good.

I havent had time to listen to the lyrics closely enough yet, I'm interested to hear that the lyrics to Armenian Genocide are thoughtful and meaningful to someone who actually knows anything about it (there is a System of a Down track on the subject, btw - I doubt its any good). As an old Marxist, I am intrigued by Russian Revolution Blues, but am a bit scared of listening to he lyrics too closely. I suspect JC has the dialectic wrong, but who doesn't?

Also, tis interesting choice of title. When Psychedelic Revolution came out I brought up the (Black Panther) Huey P Newton book of the same name, and wondered if JC had heard of/read it. It would seem he has.
necropolist
necropolist
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 31, 2013, 15:59
ohh, and Rave-o-lution is really good too, once it gets going, after the rather flat droning of 'raveolution' at the beginning
Piquiod
Piquiod
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Edited May 31, 2013, 18:05
Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 31, 2013, 17:59
Hard Drugs reminds me of Sounds of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel
cjkemp
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 31, 2013, 19:30
Totally. Totally. I have just been sent into a trance by this song. I can't believe it.
keith a
9230 posts

Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 31, 2013, 20:14
Piquiod wrote:
Hard Drugs reminds me of Sounds of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel


The opening number reminded me of Gallagher & Lyle!
riverman
riverman
844 posts

Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 31, 2013, 21:26
Fantastic post - you're spot on lyrically and musically, especially the ambulatory rhythm - the repetition through the verse with the walking to the cave bit gets me every time. As does the endless cyclical repetition of people pared down from the children, women, old folk - v moving. Damn I'm going to have to put it on again - not played it today!
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