cjkemp
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 29, 2013, 01:01
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Well, it's very 50-50, isn't it? To further complicate things, I really like it. And I do like the revolutionary themes. I think they suit Cope perfectly. It would have been impossible for him to inhabit this persona and still appear on Top of the Pops ... but there he is, somewhere in the West Country, watching everything and nodding sagely, and summoning Odin. It's perfect. This is not as strong as Black Sheep, a classic from the moment it began, but it's good, and there are new sounds and, well, if you don't like it, then you should definitely not listen to it. But there are people out there who like to hear their artists evolving and who forgive them a few hiccups for some good stuff. I think we're all agreed on that. But I think this is some of the good stuff.
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Pilgrim
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide (coming, coming..)
May 29, 2013, 08:59
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riverman wrote: Well for what it's worth here's my view. I wasn't too impressed on first listen but it arrived the day I was heading to Paris on an overnight coach trip and I pretty much listened to it non-stop - in sections first e.g. Disc 1, or the second half of Disc 2... I'd drift in and out of sleep... returning to the album at different points. And I've come to the following conclusions:
1) It's an album of Cope's poetry set to music, a clue being the booklet poems listed on the back alongside the tracks. The Armenian Genocide is almost prose - but made more rhythmic and poetic by repetition of certain phrases...but the music is seemingly subservient to the words. The whole of Disc 1 is understated, pastoral, repetitious... but that is it's strength in combination with the lyrics.
2) Following on from the point above, the album is pretty experimental all round e.g. the pastoral, poetic Disc 1... or the Disc 2 tracks 'They were all on hard drugs' or 'Destroy religion'. It is not a casual listen, as Cope wrote of Haare in one of my favourite Copendium reviews. Again, one of it's strengths.
3) Is Cope one of the best players of mellotron around? There are lovely understated touches in places, especially disc 1, but then used to the fore on 'In His Cups'. Is there a more beautiful and uplifting Cope track than this both lyrically and musically?
And I'll leave it at that for now.
Nice One, riverman
Your review makes sense of what I was hearing. Perhaps I wasn't on the right wavelength for my first listen. And I probably erred with a mindset that was linked to this as the beginning of a new Phase for M'Lud Yatesbury, and the disappointment that it didn't reflect the hyperbole of the advert on HH. I'm still listening, but side 2 works better for me at the moment.
Peace
Pilgrim
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Captain Starlet
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide (coming, coming..)
May 29, 2013, 12:43
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I agree he's done some brilliant albums, just this incarnation I'm not convinced by, but there's law saying we have to love everything he does, personally I think the true fan is a bit more open minded and critical and not just following every phase blindly.
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95aero
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 29, 2013, 14:07
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What a great Album! For me it's one of his best. Poetry, Love, Revolution, Bombs and Rock'nRoll. Music for the Brain and the Heart. Cope is unique.
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beltaneboy
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Edited May 29, 2013, 17:02
Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 29, 2013, 16:57
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Listened to it 5 times now, still unsure, don't like this lo-fi recording technique, like 'gotta problem' sounds almost like a low bit-rate mp3!
This is definitely nowhere near as good as psychedelic revolution - that's a brilliant album no question!
Geniuses have to push the bounderies tho, so fair do's Drude! x
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Piquiod
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 29, 2013, 17:57
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Mine arrived yesterday! I will begin my non-stop rotation of it after lunch....and will further listen in the car, and on both sound systems at home...I want to immerse myself in this new Cope music, that I am lucky to hear.
Also...check out the cd by the band Toy..., called Toy...got very fav reviews and was called the best post-kraut freakout since Jehovahkill
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Carlos
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 29, 2013, 19:59
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toy/dp/B008DVKTMW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1369853839&sr=8-3&keywords=Toy
That's the one?
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Pilgrim
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Re: Toy
May 29, 2013, 21:32
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I heard 'Motoring' on the Gideon Coe show a couple of weeks ago. It was quite good.
http://youtu.be/VDYMjvdCWpc
My eyes! My eyes!
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Pilgrim
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jb lamptoast-morsley
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But Rave o lution is super!
May 29, 2013, 21:36
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People are discussing the merits of Cope from the last 10 years or so, mentioning that for instance Rome and Black Sheep were the last great works by the man, and that his current trip doesn't agree with them. Album wise i would tend to agree ( i haven't actually heard The Unruly Imagination, but maybe i would add that to). Certainly Psychedelic Revolution didn't do much for me.
However i would just like to say, what about the Rave o lution EP? That is some good shit there.
Incidentally did that song he did about salvia ever make it to any album? Cos that is a Willie Thorne top drawer of porn song ( it is very good)
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Moon Cat
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Re: But Rave o lution is super!
May 29, 2013, 22:55
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Do you mean "Julian in the Underworld"? Don't think it's been officially released as yet. Yeah, twas a good tune.
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