IanB
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Edited May 30, 2013, 09:57
Re: But Rave o lution is super!
May 30, 2013, 09:44
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jb lamptoast-morsley wrote: People are discussing the merits of Cope from the last 10 years or so, mentioning that for instance Rome and Black Sheep were the last great works by the man, and that his current trip doesn't agree with them. Album wise i would tend to agree ( i haven't actually heard The Unruly Imagination, but maybe i would add that to). Certainly Psychedelic Revolution didn't do much for me.
I think Unruly Imagination is the one that does this particular period the greatest justice. Very good collection of tunes and ironically for a rag bag it sounds like the one with the most thought and effort put into it. Well worth a go. Even the Pete Townshend meets Tom Robinson bits.
Agree about Psych Rev. That one, Woden and Wasted Fuzz did my head in. So much so that they made The Jehovah Coat Demos sound like a really good purchase.
There is a part of me that just thinks that the whole Black Sheep thing is one big joke at the expense of the people who bitched and moaned about the Kiss / Van Halen reviews and Cope's Metal years. To my ears there is more than hint of "how are you liking me now?" about these releases.
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Andfurthermoreagain
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Re: But Rave o lution is super!
May 30, 2013, 12:36
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Moon Cat wrote: Do you mean "Julian in the Underworld"? Don't think it's been officially released as yet. Yeah, twas a good tune.
"and I can't pretend to know what's going on", still remember it after only hearing once at the Liverpool gig in 2011. That's the sign of a good song I reckon.
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bluntlaser
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 30, 2013, 14:19
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Well i'm enjoying it so far. I think a lack of a decent drummer has been one of julian's main issues recently. Kind of bored with the clomping and clattering.
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Zariadris
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Edited May 30, 2013, 15:56
Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 15:50
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With regard to Julian's creative integrity and revolutionary bona fides:
How many artists have the heart, and the balls, to write a song about - indeed called - The Armenian Genocide? Just the fact that Julian cares enough to take this on is incredible. As the ghost of Hrant Dink or any Turkish dissident can tell you, to speak these truths in Turkey, where talk of genocide is strictly verboten, is an act of Revolutionary Suicide alone. Apart from it's personal significance for me (full disclosure: I'm an Armenian, among other things), I find it to be as brilliant musically as it is lyrically, with an expansive sound, built on simple busker's chords and an ambulatory rhythm (as of the walkers walking), that unfurls like a tapestry on a scaffold. It is full of subtle ideas and an instrumentation of rich sonic textures that shape-shifts over 15 cinematic minutes: an apocalyptic, epic narrative as played by a rhapsode straggling alongside a column of deportees, colliding the brightness of a camp fire song with incisive, visionary words in the vein of A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.
Ultimately, the song rests on the soundness, and cohesiveness, of it's moral and musical convictions, unlike so many other attempts to make art of this or any other tragedy that merely pass off juvenile rage as emotion, aping a darkness that can't be seen. As a friend once told me, writing about the genocide is like staring at the sun. One can only know it indirectly, through what it's black light illuminates, refracted in the eyes of the living, not the dead: one can only glimpse it's irrational truths, as in mystic poetry, through a paradox. For all it's melodic sweetness and mellotron warmth, The Armenian Genocide flashes it's high beams into hell, revealing as much as the listener's mind is able, or willing, to see.
Julian is the Real fucking Deal. I can't think of any other artists working right now that are as fearless and independent. I cannot think of anyone else who would have even thought of writing this, let alone pulling it off. I can't thank him enough for sticking his long neck so far out of our collective tortoise shell and creating a work of such beauty, power and substance. I doff my fez to him.
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wychburyman
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 17:24
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Well said!
PS: are you based in Turkey BTW?
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Piquiod
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 30, 2013, 17:47
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@Carlos....Yes!! That is the TOY that I'm enjoying very much.
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Zariadris
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 17:49
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wychburyman wrote: Well said!
PS: are you based in Turkey BTW?
No, I'm just west of the Bosphorus, in Brooklyn, NY.
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wychburyman
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 17:52
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Zariadris wrote: wychburyman wrote: Well said!
PS: are you based in Turkey BTW?
No, I'm just west of the Bosphorus, in Brooklyn, NY.
AH. It's just that I'm going to Istanbul later in the year
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Carlos
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide
May 30, 2013, 17:59
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Thanks for the tip ;-)
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Zariadris
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Re: Revolutionary Suicide - The Armenian Genocide
May 30, 2013, 18:02
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wychburyman wrote: Zariadris wrote: wychburyman wrote: Well said!
PS: are you based in Turkey BTW?
No, I'm just west of the Bosphorus, in Brooklyn, NY.
AH. It's just that I'm going to Istanbul later in the year
A wonderful place, warts and all. You'll have a great time.
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