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MonkeyBoy 1008 posts |
Jul 10, 2004, 23:05
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Not only is Relentless unsung to non-fans of PSB but also many fans of PSB have never tracked it down. This makes it more Unsung than many things on the reviews section as not even a lot of fans have heard it. Imagine that a record on unsung that even a lot of fans have not heard, that can't be said by a lot of the reviews on the site. By the way PSB were one of the greatest pop bands of the 80s and Behaviour is an all time classic and is a far more moving LP then some on that section. I don't see why some reviews have to be removed, unless thay are really unhelpful or of poor quality. Are many reviews to be deemed unacceptable by the powers at be in Head Heritage and people aren't allowed their own individual opinions and that everyone's taste should be moulded by the opinion setters. Fuck that! this site will surely lose something if everyone's tastes became an extension of person or one group (clique) of tastes.
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MonkeyBoy 1008 posts |
Jul 10, 2004, 23:12
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Aren't PSB worthy of praise for actually getting intelligent, really good pop songs to the top of charts on a number of occaisons rather than scrapping into the top 20 maybe once or twice. Also to many young people today they don't even know who PSB are so doesn't that make them unsung in someway? Especially unsung as it was the most advanced chart-topping music of it's time.
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keith a 9572 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 00:16
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It's the hair, I tell you. Their hair's not long enough ; )
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direwolf 92 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 00:32
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Look dude... I don't wanna argue or get on the wrong side of you or anything.... I think you do some awesome work here which is why I keep coming back to check it out, but, think about this for a minute........... if fellow user would have posted a review of the same Spiritualized album praising how great he thought it was this thread would not have existed.
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Popel Vooje 5373 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 00:36
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Fair enough, Holy, those kind of reviews may not have been what the board was designed for. But in all honesty, I found that article a hoot (and I actually quite like that LP, although I don't think it is in the same league as their earlier offerings). I remember stumbling on that guy's earlier desecrations of "Pornography" and "Loveless", and laughing out loud once or twice at the "Loveless" one, even though that is still one of my all-time favourite albums after 11 or 12 years. Am I the only one who holds this opinion? I always enjoyed Melody Maker's "Mr Abusing" and Uncut's "Sacred Cows" for the same reason, even though the latter dissed both "Pet Sounds" and Kraftwerk which I both adore.
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MonkeyBoy 1008 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 00:53
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If the PSB & ELP reviews are removed than you might as well close down the enire unsung review site and even the forum. If one or two people people decide what stays or goes (and I don't deny you have the perogative as the hosts of this site) than this site will have become so sterile and conforming to one particular opinion that it wouldn't be democratically accessible to other posters. The internet is a great tool for people to freely express themselves (within reason) and taking steps against this would be so un-forward thinking. On Dog's ELP review it was the greatest piece of writing in the entire review section. And I don't mean to diss The Setn Man who is the undisputed King Of Unsung and his descriptive powers and general enthusiam far transcend my own feeble ability. What made Dog's review so great (and pure poetry or prose - depending on how you look at it) is that it was a geniune work of affection for something you have known for a long time. So long in fact that you are not sure whether you like it or not. Im sure you are all capable of building geniune long term relationships with people. You know, you've known someone for so long that no matter what a tosser they are you always come back to them. That's what Dog's review was like, he's known ELP for so long that sometimes he has a falling out with them and they are so annoying sometimes that he doesn't call ELP or return their calls. But despite it all he will eventually have time for them. Where as The Seth Man bigs them up and would hang around with the guys he reviews The Dog Man ain't so sure whether he's even talking to ELP or not. but it'll all blow over and they will be friends once again. The review was genius as it trully reflected the contradictory nature of music. It can't always be adoration and you have to recognise the faults. Also it wasn't at all a lame attempt at irony and wasn't at all post-modern. Warts and all is the phrase for Dog's review.
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alan lake soon 349 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 01:49
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amen (and I haven't read yr review). i reaally don't like the whiff of correctness in Holy McGrail's statement. wouldn't be much of a site without the contributors, would it? Perhaps, then, we could decide ourselves whether we want to read an ELP review or not, by either reading it or not. als x
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alan lake soon 349 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 01:53
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david stubbs, perpertrator of sacred cows etc now has his own blog: www.mr-agreeable.net ...for some light relief from the po-faced policing going on around here als x
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Seb 600 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 01:56
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i completely agree xxxxx
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Dog 3000 4611 posts |
Jul 11, 2004, 03:12
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Thank you, thank you . . . and again! I thank you. I thank all the people who have said nice things about my review, but so far I think MonkeyBoy has described my own feelings about "this issue" better than anyone else, myself included. Having now read all the responses to this thread, it seems that except for Shrimp & Holy everyone else seems to "get" the review I wrote. My feelings about ELP are complex and a simple "I love it" or "I hate it" review would not have come close to capturing "the truth" about my feelings re: what I do feel is most definitely an UNSUNG band (at least in the present context -- maybe in 1972 they weren't "unsung" but this is 2004 . . . . ELP is so far beyond what is "fashionable" that I think you can make the case for them being a true "underground cult band" today!) The fact that my review has produced so much response, and so STRONG a response (both pro- and con-) is entirely unexpected to me. I realized when I was writing that review that it was "a little outside the normal boundaries" of Unsung reviews but I in total honesty I never thought it was going to turn into the local version of [Passion of the Christ/Fahrenheit 911]!!! The intense response has me thinking that I really am on to something re: ELP. I thought I was the only one in a love-hate relationship with them! Apparently not. But in truth ELP aren't just some easily dismissed "prog dinosaur" band like Phil Collins-era Genesis. If someone reviewed "A Trick Of The Tail" I wouldn't bother to reply cuz that record is so fucking boring you can't even get pissed off at it. Would you even bother? Who's got the time to even complain about the latest Eric Crapton album? But mention ELP, an "irrelevant" band from a long time ago, and suddenly some people go into conniption fits! In my book they must have been doing something right if they are provoking that level of response 30 years after they disappeared from the scene. If anything, this "controversy" has me more convinced than ever that ELP is a vital band. And, whether you like my review, or the band, or NOT, it's at the very least "a topic worth discussing" for anyone interested in la Historia de la Rock.
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