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giNgko_C
giNgko_C
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Edited Oct 20, 2018, 01:30
Re: Also
Oct 20, 2018, 00:50
What was the point in that video?

Grrrr, why I oughta - if Alex Jones wasn't in Australia presenting the Invictus Games I'd ruddy well suggest in a paranoid conspiratorial fashion that the European Research Group are coordinating directly with an old wizen haired Sunday School Teacher manlady who will personally oversee all hard border issues with a big gun or several hundred.

Yes I know I've basically just read a Guardian news headline back to you and have contributed nothing to the Brexit debate.

What's txt speak for a Klingon Bat'leth tournament final?

":():"

Cx

try having that removed from your forehead.
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: So it'll be No Deal then?
Oct 20, 2018, 07:23
Apologies for saying you got to Jeremiah on purpose. When I open my bible it goes to him automatically as it's so well thumbed.
giNgko_C
giNgko_C
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Re: So it'll be No Deal then?
Oct 20, 2018, 15:38
Mine's output is still pretty heavily quantized by the binding!

Cx
Captain Starlet
Captain Starlet
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Edited Oct 21, 2018, 13:12
Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 21, 2018, 13:10
Jeremy Corbyn
?Verified account @jeremycorbyn
Oct 20

Twenty years ago I was proud to join the campaign to extradite Pinochet for his crimes against the people of Chile.

Today I am in Geneva meeting Michelle Bachelet who was imprisoned and tortured by Pinochet's regime. She later became the first woman President of Chile.

This is the second time calamity corbyn's done a boris on the day the People's Vote marched in London. Yesterday was the second largest march in uk history and he's buggered off on a jolly! Suffice to say he's lost even more support from Labour members, judging by the comments on his post yesterday.

Would be lovely if we had some opposition to all this from the actual opposition party!
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 21, 2018, 18:42
Agreed 100%
grufty jim
grufty jim
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 21, 2018, 19:51
It is a grim, sad irony that Jeremy Corbyn should be leader of the Labour Party right now.

If it wasn't for brexit, he has the potential to be a very good thing for the UK. I'm actually not a big fan of the man personally, but British politics has shifted rightwards en masse to a terrifying degree during my lifetime. If you guys don't elect someone like Corbyn very soon, you won't have an NHS in a decade. That's just a fact from where I'm sitting. The NHS desperately needs five or ten years of heavy investment just to survive. And only someone "like" Corbyn will do that.

Trouble is... Brexit is such a hugely important thing right now. This two year "Article 50" period will potentially be remembered as being a pivotal time in British politics for the next hundred years. And Corbyn's clear ambivalence on Europe makes him the worst person to have been leader of the opposition during it.

It's such a terrible shame. It's a stretch to lay any of the actual blame for brexit at his feet (as some are wont to do), but in my view Corbyn has unambiguously made a terrible situation even more terrible -- when he had it in his power to do otherwise.
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 21, 2018, 20:51
Agreed, and what about the Beeb's role in the tragedy?:


Alex Andreou
?Verified account @sturdyAlex

Have now heard it called the “so-called People’s Vote” from four different journos on @BBCNews. This points to an editorial decision to comment on the #PeoplesVote. Pretty extraordinary considering the only other such editorial interference is the “so-called Islamic State”. WTF
grufty jim
grufty jim
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 21, 2018, 21:29
I've been quite appalled by BBC News lately. I'd long been a champion of the beeb as an institution (for all its many and varied faults) but it has shifted quite dramatically over the past few years.

I lived in the UK for quite a long time and would often find myself defending the BBC and NHS when British people would complain about them... "They're far from perfect", I'd acknowledge, "but you've no idea how much better they are than almost everywhere else on the planet".

Something has gone terribly wrong.

I'm not for a moment suggesting the BBC was ever some radical organisation telling truth to power no matter the cost. It was far from that. The BBC has always basically been a reflection of the Old British establishment. Which means it was conservative (small 'c'), prudish, mildly repressed and repressive... all of that stuff.

But at the same time it was utterly resistant to the influence of commercial pressure. The licence fee gave it an independence from the encroachment of capital that no other major news organisation had. And because the values it reflected were rooted in a faded memory of the late 50s / early 60s they were dated and problematic, sure, but they were also a known quantity. And they were not subject to the fickle politics of the day. That's completely changed. The BBC editorial slant has taken some very odd twists and turns recently.

As an outsider looking in (but an outsider with a *lot* of British friends and one who knows the UK very well), the past 4 years have been a bit like watching the UK go mad. And instead of remaining that steadfast conservative bedrock it had always been, the BBC went mad right along with the rest of the establishment (and half the people).

It's very sad. Once you lose something like the BBC (or the NHS) in this modern world... the chances of getting it back are probably on the low side.
nigelswift
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Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 22, 2018, 07:11
Gone mad is how it feels. But "the BBC went mad right along with the rest of the establishment (and half the people)" is beyond explanation because it's stuffed full of educated metropolitan near-millenials, typical Remain types - so what is happening?
nigelswift
8065 posts

Re: Jesus I despise Brexit.
Oct 22, 2018, 12:26
https://news.sky.com/video/lets-get-back-to-being-a-british-empire-11530606
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