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Toni Torino
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Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 06, 2010, 13:12
jshell wrote:



9/11 conspiracies are busted. They are busted by peope with sound engineering experience. I got hooked up in it, cast an engineering eye'd view and could see it was bollox. Quite frankly there are unanswered questions, but the majority is bollox.

There have been many doomsday religions. Some even committing suicide for their beliefs, but the rest of us just get on living. That's the way it is... That's the way it'll be after 2012. By the way, what's the correlation between the Mayan and Gregorian calendar? ISTR there were somne years missed out.

The Bilderbergs are no secret. Mandelson is a member, everyone knows this but they still vote labour, I thought Brown (and Mandelson) are 100% complete, control-freak arseholes, but Lizards I don't believe.

The old Masonic plot. Well, that's always a cracker. My family has a history of Freemasonry and I joined, and became elevated to find out what the Big Conspiracy was all about. I was disappointed as I joined what in effect is an amateur dramatics club, where all the 'secrets' are avail on the web and it's a dying organisation. I personally know a 32nd degree mason (There's only 33 degrees), believe me, he's not in on any great New World Order conspiracy. It's not a threat to anyone. I don't practice anymore, I got bored quite frankly.

There it is.


Only a lizard would de-bunk the evidence; unless you're a turtle, jshell.
Popel Vooje
5336 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 06, 2010, 14:06
drewbhoy wrote:
People used and abused that for imperialistic and empire building gains. Blake wouldn't have wanted that, just as Elgar and Holst wouldn't like to see how their music has been so badly hijacked.

edit. I'm sure Haydn would feel exactly the same way.


...unlike Wagner, who would probably have been quite happy to have his music appropriated by the Nazis.
Deepinder Cheema
Deepinder Cheema
1971 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 06, 2010, 14:13
Jonathan Aitken once tried to sue the Guardian for libel. He had a very arguable case. But he lied about the Ritz Hotel, airplane tickets and generated fictional movements of members of his family whom he co-opted in taking the witness stand. He simply wanted to clear an embarrassing minor hurdle which may not have impacted severely on his arguable case. His credibility was ruined. His manoeuvre mean't that anything he could say was henceforth tainted so he no choice but to drop the case and hope for the best. After the worst which did happen,he asked Michael Howard if he could either join the Tories or stand again for Parliament, to which the then leader said No.
zerkalo
zerkalo
488 posts

Zephiloyd
Oct 06, 2010, 14:52
zephiloyd wrote:

The word Nazi stands for National Zionism, the Nazis purpose was to create the state of Israel, by killing the Jews who did not agree with Zionism, this would then be used as a politcal weapon to establish the state of Israel. After the war, Hitler escaped to Argentina and the Nazis set up camp in the secret societies in the USA.


Oh it didn't take long for you to wheel out the International Jewish conspiracy did it, now you're showing your true colours. To suggest that a group of people would engineer the genocide of their own kind to establish their nationstate is beyond ridiculous and quite possibly the most offensive thing I've seen posted on the internet for a long long time.

Next you'll be telling us Ed Milliband is being groomed as a future leader in this upcoming Zionist One World Government given his Jewish roots and Harvard education (skull and bones?). Like someone said earlier the tendency for an individual to form conclusions based on little tit bits of circumstantial information rather than FACT is a sure sign of deep seated paranoia

A short word of advice, you are posting on a public forum for all to see, your comments concerning the Holocaust are deeply offensive and at face value are anti-semitic despite your earlier protestations of you yourself not being. I'll be watching this thread carefully and any other comments of that nature whether it is your personal view or just something you want to chuck in to embellish your arguments will be reported to the moderators on this site. We might get a little heated in here from time to time but on the whole most of us are decent level headed open minded and well read people who actually do know the difference between the hateful bullshit like you are preaching and genuine injustices.
mingtp
mingtp
2269 posts

Edited Oct 06, 2010, 15:25
Re: Zephiloyd
Oct 06, 2010, 15:23
zerkalo wrote:
To suggest that a group of people would engineer the genocide of their own kind to establish their nationstate is beyond ridiculous and quite possibly the most offensive thing I've seen posted on the internet for a long long time....
your comments concerning the Holocaust are deeply offensive and at face value are anti-semitic despite your earlier protestations of you yourself not being.


Yup. What a pillock.
dodge one
dodge one
1242 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 06, 2010, 15:29
Get a fuckin' grip Merrick.
Not everything is worth debating or discussing or analyzing or what the fuck ever.
This Zephaloid is just throwing out the most outlandish bullshit possible.
If he wants to believe it fine. No one is under any obligation to debunk this line of shit. The fact is....any sane person should feel an obligation and a duty to call it what it is .....COMPLETE and UTTER Bull-Shit.
But you go ahead....have a nice time counter researching and debunking all this completely at face value BULLSHIT.
No one is under any obligation to live up to your lofty standards.
D1
Merrick
Merrick
2148 posts

Re: Global Fascist Dictatorship
Oct 06, 2010, 15:32
Listening to a Rush album or the ruination of civilisation - not sure which one I prefer.
zephiloyd
66 posts

Re: Zephiloyd
Oct 06, 2010, 16:07
zerkalo wrote:
zephiloyd wrote:

The word Nazi stands for National Zionism, the Nazis purpose was to create the state of Israel, by killing the Jews who did not agree with Zionism, this would then be used as a politcal weapon to establish the state of Israel. After the war, Hitler escaped to Argentina and the Nazis set up camp in the secret societies in the USA.


Oh it didn't take long for you to wheel out the International Jewish conspiracy did it, now you're showing your true colours. To suggest that a group of people would engineer the genocide of their own kind to establish their nationstate is beyond ridiculous and quite possibly the most offensive thing I've seen posted on the internet for a long long time.

Next you'll be telling us Ed Milliband is being groomed as a future leader in this upcoming Zionist One World Government given his Jewish roots and Harvard education (skull and bones?). Like someone said earlier the tendency for an individual to form conclusions based on little tit bits of circumstantial information rather than FACT is a sure sign of deep seated paranoia

A short word of advice, you are posting on a public forum for all to see, your comments concerning the Holocaust are deeply offensive and at face value are anti-semitic despite your earlier protestations of you yourself not being. I'll be watching this thread carefully and any other comments of that nature whether it is your personal view or just something you want to chuck in to embellish your arguments will be reported to the moderators on this site. We might get a little heated in here from time to time but on the whole most of us are decent level headed open minded and well read people who actually do know the difference between the hateful bullshit like you are preaching and genuine injustices.


Nice spin on what I said, sadly most people will believe your lying twisted propaganda.

So I am anti zionist, that makes me an anti semite, a simple equation you make in your head, due to your pre-programmed brainwashed belief system.

So I am against the evil tyrannical zionist neocons that run The US and Israel, and that makes me a bad person? In any case, they are still middle men, they are not the head of the conspiracy, the global conspiracy is Luciferian, that is the true belief system of those at the top.

How do you grapple with the concept that there are many Rabbis and Jewish people, who I support, who are also anti zionist?

I am keen to hear you answer that.
mingtp
mingtp
2269 posts

Re: Zephiloyd
Oct 06, 2010, 16:14
zephiloyd wrote:
How do you grapple with the concept that there are many Rabbis and Jewish people, who I support, who are also anti zionist?

I am keen to hear you answer that.


That's not what you said you idiot. This is what you said:

zephiloyd wrote:
The word Nazi stands for National Zionism, the Nazis purpose was to create the state of Israel, by killing the Jews who did not agree with Zionism, this would then be used as a politcal weapon to establish the state of Israel.


Do you stand by the latter comment? If so, you are an offensive bigot and an anti-Semite. Plain and simple. You're really beginning to piss me off - you have that whole religious zeal thing where nothing anyone says penetrates your tiny skull. Please do piss off now, there's a good chap.
zerkalo
zerkalo
488 posts

Edited Oct 06, 2010, 16:22
Re: Zephiloyd
Oct 06, 2010, 16:21
zephiloyd wrote:


Nice spin on what I said, sadly most people will believe your lying twisted propaganda.

So I am anti zionist, that makes me an anti semite, a simple equation you make in your head, due to your pre-programmed brainwashed belief system.

So I am against the evil tyrannical zionist neocons that run The US and Israel, and that makes me a bad person? In any case, they are still middle men, they are not the head of the conspiracy, the global conspiracy is Luciferian, that is the true belief system of those at the top.

How do you grapple with the concept that there are many Rabbis and Jewish people, who I support, who are also anti zionist?

I am keen to hear you answer that.


Heh, where did I lie, I pointed out that you made a statement about the perpetrators of the Holocaust that I find anti-semitic and offensive, only you have made the link between my asserting that I find your comments anti-semitic and you being anti-semitic, you tell me.

Yes I've heard of Jews against Zionism too, though I think I'd be hard pressed to find any Jew out there that thinks Jews were responsible for the rise of The Third Reich and extermination of 6 million of their own.
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