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67 Shelby Mustang
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Re: I'm sorry
May 17, 2009, 14:18
what made me laugh the most was Cameron standing there having a right old pop at Brown and the labour party only to have it revealed two days later that his party are as bad if not worse.

i fucking hate tories
handofdave
handofdave
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Re: I'm sorry
May 17, 2009, 14:26
67 Shelby Mustang wrote:
what made me laugh the most was Cameron standing there having a right old pop at Brown and the labour party only to have it revealed two days later that his party are as bad if not worse.

i fucking hate tories


It's the same over here. The Republicans are making big stinks about Obama's budget, even tho they spent eight years with the entire Federal government to themselves, and turned a surplus into a record deficit.

I've been having a brawl online with a few right wing sympathizers who think corporations are beyond reproach, and government is evil. I had to remind them that it's all the same fucking thing... corporations control most of what happens in Washington, regardless of which party is in office.
67 Shelby Mustang
45 posts

Re: I'm sorry
May 17, 2009, 14:42
it makes your blood boil when people are so blinkered. makes me furious infact. you know, i actually think it reflects a persons iq when they won't see the writing on the wall, when they just won't accept that sometimes they can get it wrong.
handofdave
handofdave
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Re: I'm sorry
May 17, 2009, 15:13
67 Shelby Mustang wrote:
it makes your blood boil when people are so blinkered. makes me furious infact. you know, i actually think it reflects a persons iq when they won't see the writing on the wall, when they just won't accept that sometimes they can get it wrong.


The right wing has always been stricken with a kind of hypermasculine fear of being wrong. So they never are (LOL!).

They have incredibly short, selective memories, don't they? Biggest bunch of historical revisionists you could imagine.
Merrick
Merrick
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Edited May 17, 2009, 18:17
Re: I'm sorry
May 17, 2009, 18:16
grufty jim wrote:
My whole point is that MPs shouldn't be claiming their "mortgage interest and utility bills" from the public purse. It may be within the rules, but guess who sets the rules?


There are examples of MPs doing exactly what Cameron doesn't.

According to the Independent, Labour millionaire Geoffrey Robinson has several properties yet doesn't claim any second home allowance.

On Cameron's own benches, Tory Philip Dunne has a second home in London but refused to claim any second home allowance because it is 'not the right thing'.

And, as you point out Jim, Cameron's constituency is close enough to London to commute anyway. LibDem David Howarth is from further away yet he commutes.

Personally, I'd like to see Cameron be a real conviction politician, preferably a conviction from the the War Crimes Tribunal for complicity in the Iraq war.
geoffrey_prime
geoffrey_prime
758 posts

Re: I'm sorry
May 18, 2009, 01:56
Laughable....
geoffrey_prime
geoffrey_prime
758 posts

Re: I'm sorry
May 18, 2009, 01:58
What a pathetic attempt at provocation!
nigelswift
7920 posts

Re: I'm sorry
May 18, 2009, 06:49
Whereas "You are talking crap" was an attempt to reach consensus?

Can you explain Geoffrey why you think it's appropriate for the taxpayer to provide MPs with mortgage interest relief on second homes? It beats me but I assume there's a reason.
Merrick
Merrick
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Re: I'm sorry
May 18, 2009, 14:27
I genuinely don't understand why trolls do what they do.

Thinking it can be worth posting a response that says nothing. literally, nothing. A single word that doesn't even make clear which bit of the earlier post it dislikes, let alone refute any of it. Why do they think that adds anything to anyone's life, even their own?

Posting on to a forum to say how much they don't like the forum, it begs the question 'what sort of person goes somewhere they dislike and that they believe is a waste of time? Why do they value their time so lowly?'

Getting held to account for what they say so claiming they'll throw their toys out of the pram and leave. Then not doing. The first looks petulant and makes them seem like they've no real point to make. The second proves it.
Moon Cat
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Re: I'm sorry
May 18, 2009, 17:37
handofdave wrote:
I fear that here in the USA the right wing will come back to power in a big way if Obama's attempts to get the economy rolling again fail. There's a part of me that almost thinks he may just be an 'allowed' Democratic president- that he was "permitted" to win- (does anyone else suspect that the Republicans set themselves up to lose on purpose?) so that he could take the big fall while the right regroups.




That did cross my mind, especially when they went for Sarah Palin as the running mate. I've always been a bit at war with myself for considering that because, in a way, it undermines Obama's achievement in getting elected, which I still believe to be an important thing. It's also crossed my mind that Labour could well do a similar thing next year. In fact, more or less any incumbent Western party might well feel like throwing in the towel in a general election 'cos whatever the respective oppositons polices are, the global mess is gonna be very difficult to clean up, and short of diong something completely radical, a party coming to power is gonna inherit the mess and look pretty ineffectual from day one.
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