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The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Dec 11, 2011, 14:54
thesweetcheat wrote:


Crikey. Separated at birth ?
nigelswift
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Even more proof....
Dec 26, 2011, 09:14
They don't give a damn about the majority, only about delivering what their mates want ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/25/jim-paice-agriculture-minister_n_1169274.html
The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat
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Edited Dec 26, 2011, 09:53
Re: Even more proof....
Dec 26, 2011, 09:45
I read about this elsewhere this morning. It doesn't 'work' because they blatantly allow this vile activity to go on, unhindered and unpunished. When they run out of foxes, there's always the disabled, but there's not quite the same thrill of the chase. Maybe then they'll reinstate mobility allowance, and downgrade to overweight asthmatic hounds just to give the disabled person a sporting chance.
The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat
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Edited Jan 11, 2012, 10:14
Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 10:13
For a country that's broke (yeah, right..see also: Daimond Jubilee, Olympics) this is going to cost a phenomenal amount, and for what ? Literally minutes off a train journey, regardless of the damage to areas of outstanding beauty, related local wildlife and the environment in general.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084959/HS2-Tory-shires-furious-high-speed-rail-link-gets-ahead.html
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 14:14
The Sea Cat wrote:
For a country that's broke (yeah, right..see also: Daimond Jubilee, Olympics) this is going to cost a phenomenal amount, and for what ? Literally minutes off a train journey, regardless of the damage to areas of outstanding beauty, related local wildlife and the environment in general.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084959/HS2-Tory-shires-furious-high-speed-rail-link-gets-ahead.html


It seems total madness to me to be even considering this in our present economic situation let alone the fact that it is a complete waste of time, money and the loss of more countryside. I've always said there's more mad people ouside of asylums then in them :-).
The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 14:43
Very well said, tjj. Exactly.
tjj
tjj
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 15:01
Sanctuary wrote:
The Sea Cat wrote:
For a country that's broke (yeah, right..see also: Daimond Jubilee, Olympics) this is going to cost a phenomenal amount, and for what ? Literally minutes off a train journey, regardless of the damage to areas of outstanding beauty, related local wildlife and the environment in general.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084959/HS2-Tory-shires-furious-high-speed-rail-link-gets-ahead.html


It seems total madness to me to be even considering this in our present economic situation let alone the fact that it is a complete waste of time, money and the loss of more countryside. I've always said there's more mad people ouside of asylums then in them :-).


I just don't get it, this line has been discussed before on this forum and the point was made that there is already a functioning rail link between London and Birmingham - this is about an obsession with speed. Why! Especially at the cost of our fast diminishing countryside. How can the argument for more new houses be balanced against destroying people's existing homes and environment just for Speed. I experience no schadenfreude at all with the knowledge that the homes affected will probably be very expensive ones.
blossom
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 15:47
Absolutely June. I agree totally. And all to save 30 mins on the journey.
Howburn Digger
Howburn Digger
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 17:17
blossom wrote:
And all to save 30 mins on the journey.


Unless there's leaves on the line, snow on the line, workpersons on the line, cows on the line, broken down trains on the line etc. In which case they'll decant the passengers onto buses. Anyway, of those poor souls who have no option but to go to Birmingham - who exactly wants to get there 30 minutes quicker? Any train outta London is a good one in my book and I was always just glad to "Leave the Capital" at any speed with The Fall ringing in my Walkman headphones.
Anyone who's been to Edinburgh over the last few years will have seen what these massive white elephant "public" works can do in terms of destruction, massive costs and inconvenience for a pitiful return. Auld Reekie council taxpayers got half a single tram route and a One Billion Pound bill. Scotland could have dual-carraigewayed the entire A9 for that and still had change for chips and a perfectly good Edinburgh Bus home for everyone.
The Sea Cat
The Sea Cat
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Re: Our Sacred Land
Jan 11, 2012, 18:05
Howburn Digger wrote:
blossom wrote:
And all to save 30 mins on the journey.


Unless there's leaves on the line, snow on the line, workpersons on the line, cows on the line, broken down trains on the line etc. In which case they'll decant the passengers onto buses. Anyway, of those poor souls who have no option but to go to Birmingham - who exactly wants to get there 30 minutes quicker? Any train outta London is a good one in my book and I was always just glad to "Leave the Capital" at any speed with The Fall ringing in my Walkman headphones.
Anyone who's been to Edinburgh over the last few years will have seen what these massive white elephant "public" works can do in terms of destruction, massive costs and inconvenience for a pitiful return. Auld Reekie council taxpayers got half a single tram route and a One Billion Pound bill. Scotland could have dual-carraigewayed the entire A9 for that and still had change for chips and a perfectly good Edinburgh Bus home for everyone.


They're rampantly slashing the rural bus routes to buggery here in Somerset. God help you if you rely upon them.
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