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LMan
LMan
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Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 12, 2011, 22:55
Echo & The Bunnymen - Reverberation

Celtic Frost - Cold Lake

Magma - Merci

...and what about Albert Ayler's "New Grass"?
keith a
9574 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 12, 2011, 23:01
Dog 3000 wrote:


Emerson Lake & Palmer "Works Vol. 1" (no actually it stinks! "Love Beach" is much more enjoyable!)




Works Vol 1 was one of their biggest hits!
Fatalist
Fatalist
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Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 00:38
keith a wrote:
Fatalist wrote:
Funny, I've been away for a few days, but found myself pondering a similar subject - 'next biggest thing' bands that utterly failed to deliver - that led me onto a prime example a band taking a glorious wrong turn: Mansun's Six album. I wasn't a huge fan of their debut (Attack of the Grey Lantern, rubbish title) but I really liked the lead single from Six (the distinctly Police-like Being a Girl), so took a punt... Blimey, with a sound that's Pro-Tooled within an inch of its life, it swings wildly between genius and unlistenable, often within the same song, but it ain't half ambitious/odd - imagine if the Manics had done OK Computer. Topped off with this atrocity of a sleeve http://www.a-reminder.org/music/?p=2425 - like Pendragon, only worse - it's no surprise that it sank their chances of before they'd even really got going. Their third and final album was lacklustre, tail-between-the-legs wimp rock - lead single 'I Can Only Disappoint You' said it all...


Whoaaa!! I love that third album! It might not be as proggy as Six but there was nothing wimpy about it. I Can Only Disappoint U was a truly fabulous 45. Reminded me of the Associates for some reason!

Edit: Six actually did well - top 10.




Fair enough, maybe I should revisit it :-) though my girlfriend at the time took it back to the shop... But I reckon it's also fair to say that Mansun went from being great white hopes to a band without any noticeable legacy (ironically, given their song of that name) pretty quickly.
Dog 3000
Dog 3000
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Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 01:33
Guess it was really the accompanying tour that killed 'em -- taking a whole symphony on the road so Keith could play his yawnful "piano concerto no. 1"! They lost millions of dollars and their last shred of credibility (1977 not a very good year for a pompous symphonic rock tour.)
keith a
9574 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 09:25
Fatalist wrote:


Fair enough, maybe I should revisit it :-) though my girlfriend at the time took it back to the shop... But I reckon it's also fair to say that Mansun went from being great white hopes to a band without any noticeable legacy (ironically, given their song of that name) pretty quickly.


I played it after my post last night. I love it, Fatalist - there's some great tunes there. A very melodic album when it comes down to it. I never heard the 4th album that was eventually released as part of a boxset after they'd split.

It's a real shame that Draper has, the odd moment here and there apart, all but disappeared. There always seems to be reports of an album but I don't think one has ever actually materialised.
Robot Emperor
Robot Emperor
762 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 09:55
Fatalist wrote:
Funny, I've been away for a few days, but found myself pondering a similar subject - 'next biggest thing' bands that utterly failed to deliver - that led me onto a prime example a band taking a glorious wrong turn: Mansun's Six album. I wasn't a huge fan of their debut (Attack of the Grey Lantern, rubbish title) but I really liked the lead single from Six (the distinctly Police-like Being a Girl), so took a punt...


I had forgotten all about that. Had a copy years ago. Thanks to this thread just purchased for £3.85. Every recession has a silver lining.
Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest
8769 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 09:57
FifePsy wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Daryl Hall's Sacred Songs. Don't panic it's a good album.


Fripptastic!


Indeed. I've been after a copy of that on CD to replace my old cassette but haven't found one yet.
tk421
121 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 13:19
I liked reverberation when it came out and thought the production that it had made it sound pretty timeless. I'm not so sure about that now as to me it seems a bit dated.

Anyway, these days its easy enough to find a lot of comments online about it that suggest that if they had changed the band name it may have done some business. I'm not sure as mac's solo career seemed to be one of diminshing returns...

Mind you I still think that it had songs that were as good as either the previous bunnymen album or Mac's solo debut 'candleland'.

Interestingly, I saw an online interview with Damon Reece (the drummer). He said that he thought it needed remixing at the time to make it more contemporary sounding while Will Sergeant wanted the more classic sound that it ended up with.

That line up released two singles on their own 'eiphoric' lable after they were dropped by warners. They are worth checking out as they have a rawer and more garagey sound.
IanB
IanB
6761 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 14:48
keith a wrote:
Fatalist wrote:


Fair enough, maybe I should revisit it :-) though my girlfriend at the time took it back to the shop... But I reckon it's also fair to say that Mansun went from being great white hopes to a band without any noticeable legacy (ironically, given their song of that name) pretty quickly.


I played it after my post last night. I love it, Fatalist - there's some great tunes there. A very melodic album when it comes down to it. I never heard the 4th album that was eventually released as part of a boxset after they'd split.

It's a real shame that Draper has, the odd moment here and there apart, all but disappeared. There always seems to be reports of an album but I don't think one has ever actually materialised.


I really like Little Kix too. I just love the guy's voice. It's a bit Spandau smooth in parts but there is something about them that strikes me as being genuine and heartfelt rather than a bunch of careerist rock n roll zeitgeist bandwagon chasers.

In terms of career invisibility I have a theory that Draper has formed a band with the Blue Nile and Mark Hollis. That would be enough to make even the most hirsute of a&r men reach for the Rogaine ...
Moon Cat
9577 posts

Re: Great Commercial Suicide Albums
May 13, 2011, 15:07
I'll also throw in my vote for Six's greatness. Not played it in ages so I'll dig it out later. I enjoyed the debut but was delighted with the absurdity of Six. What are the members doing now I wonder?
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