Vybik Jon
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 12:38
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Fuck off.
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elegant chaos
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 14:29
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It's not uncommon for people to go off their heroes, so that's fair enough - but Mole, why do you keep having to have the final dig? Why not just move on?
You sound like a bitter divorcee.
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JonLa
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 15:27
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Not sure JC has any say in these releases, to be honest. He was quite scathing of the reissues in a Druidion and he never really publicises them.
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elegant chaos
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Edited Jul 14, 2010, 15:30
Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 15:30
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The official** reason for the reissue of "Kilimanjaro" was related by the ex Teardrop Explodes management in this short statement
""The records weren't selling, And Balfie was drooping, And Gary had a mortgage to pay"
** - apparently.....
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neighbourofthedrude
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Cheaper .. Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 15:32
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Always Happy To Help
:o)
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Paaaaul
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 14, 2010, 17:52
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Tripecac wrote:
CD3's Peel songs all sound louder on Peel Session Plus than here. That's the opposite of what someone else said. Maybe our ears are different, or maybe one of us got it backwards. Either way, it only seems to be a loudness issue, so I think we can safely declare the Peel songs on here to be redundant.
Yep, sorry, you're right.
The Peel Session Plus tracks are louder.
I must've got confused after comparing about 8 CDs within 30 minutes of each other.
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Gladwin
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 15, 2010, 09:04
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My copy arrived last night.
First impression: disappointed that it came with a sticky label wrapped round to give the impression that the missing clear plastic Deluxe Edition protective outer sleeve.
Second impression: it's the Zebra sleeve mix. Again.
Third impressions will have to wait until I play those previously-unreleased BBC session tracks. As has been pointed out above, those are the only reason to buy this reissue. I'm not counting sleeve notes, because you only ever read them once, don't you?
I'll post a thread when I record the original vinyl mix to CD again.
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Citizensmurf
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Re: Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 15, 2010, 16:05
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mole wrote: HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA
THAT EXACTLY WHY IS GAVE IT A BAD REVIEW
Cope the Greed Head- Ripping of whats left of his fan base
You're not really reviewing the album though are you? It's just a rant about how you don't like Cope anymore. We all know you used to, but what your ravings have to do with this reissue is beyond me.
I've never bought the whole "deluxe reissues are a rip off" argument. If you consciously purchase an album, knowing exactly what is on it, and that you already own three other versions of that album, then how are you getting ripped off.
A rip off is would be if the discs were blank, or there was only one song on it. But to call a reissue a rip off just because you were stupid enough to buy it only to get three unreleased songs and then complain that they weren't worth the purchase price, that's your fault.
But you are not doing the world a service by telling people not to buy this reissue just because you don't like Cope anymore. I know the internet is full of stupid comments, but go write on your blog or something.
I will buy this at some point, as I don't own the album or any of the other TX compilations that is shares tracks with. I actually never picked up any of JC's albums before Peggy, but as most of the crew here couldn't live without them, I think I'll follow their advice.
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Ziggypop
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Re: Cheaper .. Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 15, 2010, 18:11
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neighbourofthedrude wrote:
Not cheap enough though.. Head in Bristol have it for £13 and I was tempted but as there's only 3 new tracks I'm gonna wait 3 - 6 months and get it in Fopp for £6 - £8 as that seems to be the shelf life of re issues these days.
I'm a sucker for deluxe editions but I have so many that some I haven't even listened to yet 3 months after purchase but I do buy music constantly, on a daily basis more often than not.
Floored Genius 2 (Deluxe) was a different thing £10 and plenty of new stuff to wet the ears with...
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Gladwin
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Re: Cheaper .. Kilimanjaro 3CD edition
Jul 22, 2010, 10:04
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Yesterday I took delivery of this:
http://www.discogs.com/Teardrop-ExplodesFeaturing-Julian-Cope-Kilimanjaro/release/1761843
It's a US Kilimanjaro CD, released on Skyclad Records with the catalogue number LUCKY 7CD in or around 1989.
It's billed as The Teardrop Explodes featuring Julian Cope, and here's the track list:
1 Ha Ha I'm Drowning 2:56
2 Treason 3:09
3 Suffocate 3:46
4 Reward 2:56
5 When I Dream 5:01
6 Went Crazy 2:42
7 Brave Boys Keep Their Promises 2:33
8 Sleeping Gas 3:51
9 Books 2:40
10 Thief Of Bagdad 3:13
11 Poppies In The Field 5:04
The interesting detail which induced me to buy my copy from eBay was the track timing on Reward: 2:56 instead of the regular 2:44 suggested that this US CD release featured the mix of the song from the US vinyl album, which is different throughout but immediately distinguishes itself from the familiar mix on account of the bass/drum intro which explains those extra seconds.
So I played it last night, and yes! It was that version. And the rest of the album uses the original vinyl mixes from the UK "band sleeve" LP. I had a glass of beer.
The keen-eyed Teardrops fan will have spotted the drawback already. Yes, the original US vinyl LP boasted an exclusive mix of Reward and the then-unreleased Suffocate, but at a terrible price: the omission of both Second Head and Bouncing Babies.
So I've been doing a bit of comparative listening, between those two songs as recorded from my UK vinyl copy and the UK CD releases prior to the new Deluxe Edition. So far, I think I'm correct in saying that neither is different, i.e. neither track was remixed or re-recorded for the second "zebra sleeve" vinyl edition, which is the mix/version that all UK CDs have replicated.
So what the enterprising "band sleeve" fan needs is a copy of the above US CD and a copy of the 1989 UK Kilimanjaro CD (Fontana 836 897-2) which should be roughly the same in terms of mastering volume. Then you can compile your own "band sleeve" mix at last. I will be trying this out at the weekend, if time allows.
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