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keith a 9576 posts |
May 10, 2009, 12:21
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I've not heard the new LP yet, but I thought they were unfairly maligned first time round. I liked the debut LP and thought there was far more to it than the Jack The Ripper angle, e.g. I remember describing She Is The New Thing as sounding like the early Teardrops on a rowdy night out. Any doubts that there was talent here definitely disappearded when I heard when I heard the The Spider & The Flies spin-off band. OK, they'd patently been listening to Warm Leatherette, but you knew that they weren't one trick ponies. And their cover of Shadazz was very neat, too. I like what I've heard off the new LP. I'll be buying it.
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Stevo 6664 posts |
May 10, 2009, 20:37
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Jasonaparkes wrote: OK, they're great for having a sound that sounds exactly like and does not advance on certain records of yore. Let's have an Unsung review for Kingdom Come... who's name was also lifted from a much more interesting early 70s band. Arthur Brown's.
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 11, 2009, 10:22
May 11, 2009, 09:59
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Yes life is too short for the ersatz though I really enjoyed having The new Horrors album around for a week knowing full well I would probably never play it again. Just like their last one. I am prepared to give almost anyone three records and if they are still trading in the second hand ideas after that then I think they are probably beyond redemption. So jury still out for me. I feel exactly the same way about Fujiya and Miyagi, Franz Ferdinand and any number of a host of acts whose members were born after the 70s were over and who seem to view pop history as something that is fair game for plunder with absolutely no sense of having to build on the past. Ironic ransacking being all the rage and an acceptable end in itself. How very 1982 of them. That said fans are just as bad. If an act comes up within a confined genre God help them if they stray outside the acceptable margins. Fans of music from genres outside the current mainstream (be it alt.country, Prog, Kraut, Ska, Northern Soul or whatever) seem to be the worst -like the sorry old Teds of 76. How many bands who start off in hock to an older sound lose the rump of their audience as soon as they stray beyond those confines? And how many acts simply lack the wit for anything other than a Stars In Their Eyes routine? In the end it comes down to songwriting. If a band can write then they can overcome the limitations of their initial musical vision thing and maybe even keep selling enough tickets and records to stay in business. Even if that's in Denmark or Brazil. If you can't then you've only got pastiche to lean on. Though in this day and age if you are not good looking, or at least striking in a cartoon manner, then you are probably fucked either way. All that aside we are talking about people who view music making as a career option. The Jon Bon Jovis of rock n roll. Which is why we are all aware of The Horrors in the first place. They are in it to win it. In the wider world of creativity where people aren't thinking so much about sales but are mainly concerned with how they are going to fulfill their vision and get their next record out it's far less of an issue.
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Lonesome Cowboy Bill 356 posts |
May 11, 2009, 10:31
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I've had the new album from a naughty download link for a month and thought "WOW" from the start. Purchased it with a free mix cd at Rough Trade the day it came out proper. The mix cd is very electronic, obscure, and mostly great. Having come of musical age through the Shoegaze era I find I'm loving this album without over thinking it or comparing it to Kraut or goth or wibblegaze or whatever the new genre is these days. The guitar sound on some songs reminds me of MBV but they've done it so well that it doesn'y come across as a weak imitation like some of the original shoegaze acts did. There's a lot more influences on there other than the Kraut and Shoegaze ones which the press have quoted. To me they've eaten it all up and made a great album......apart from New Ice Age and the one that sounds like Come Together by Spiritualized, they're both a bit crap to my ears. Why pick it apart and break it down into "oh they've nicked this bit from there and that bit from them blah de blah de blah". So what. As a fellow Southend man I've kept an interested eye on their progress. I bought then took back their Strange House debut as I didn't rate it. I know one of them to talk to when out and about. Lovely guy and a massive music fan who was into the whole Kraut and garage scene way before it became a press soundbite. This new album is like they're a different band, it's wildly good when compared to the debut and will be up there in the top album lists come the end of the year and for good reason too.
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keith a 9576 posts |
Edited May 11, 2009, 18:59
May 11, 2009, 18:58
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IanB wrote: I feel exactly the same way about Fujiya and Miyagi, Franz Ferdinand and any number of a host of acts whose members were born after the 70s were over and who seem to view pop history as something that is fair game for plunder with absolutely no sense of having to build on the past. Ironic ransacking being all the rage and an acceptable end in itself. How very 1982 of them.. To to be fair to FF, who are well into their 30's in any case, surely anyone can tell one of their records from a mile away. They've taken influences and made them sound contemporary, made them their own. Haven't been tempted to buy the third LP yet though! As for F&M, etc., let young people plunder what they want as long as the end result is good. And in F&M's case, it is (what I've heard anyway) It might be a good time to listen to Jealous Of Youth by The The, Ian! ; ) IanB wrote: All that aside we are talking about people who view music making as a career option. The Jon Bon Jovis of rock n roll. Which is why we are all aware of The Horrors in the first place. They are in it to win it. Sorry Ian, I find this quite a ridiculous thing to say. "They are in it to win it". What exactly do The Horrors want to win? Bon Jovi-like success??? Right...they're clearly going about it the wrong way then! The Horrors could be way more successful if success was all they cared about. The folk on here might well be au-fait with Krautrock and shoe-gazing, but you mention those terms to a lot of people who care less passionately about music than us lot then they haven't got a clue about them. And no, I'm not out of touch, or being condescending. I have these conversations. Joe Public doesn't know who much about Neu or MBV. You want to appeal to a mass market and be Champion's League winners in music, then you're gonna have to be way more obvious than that.
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riotmaster 1563 posts |
May 11, 2009, 20:15
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and there wont be any new 'CLASSIC' thats the age we live in but it doesn't mean its not fucking great music is to be enjoyed, not disected and analysed ...
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singingringingtree 964 posts |
May 11, 2009, 21:08
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have you heard the new black dice record? or the new hecker? or flower-corsano? or (insert yr own here)? shit, there's LOADS of new stuff - never heard the horrors ... got no real reason to hear 'em if it's just revival ... life's too short!
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riotmaster 1563 posts |
May 11, 2009, 22:52
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YES NO YES whats new ?
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singingringingtree 964 posts |
May 12, 2009, 09:54
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2/3 good! (altho you shd check florian hecker - there isn't much else like it) so what i'm trying to say is, those 3 examples came to mind in that what they're doing is pretty fresh + modern + not beholden to the "stick xyz hip influences together + hope the audience are stupid/jaded/unadventurous enough to swallow" schtick that a lot of music (mainstream + otherwise) has fallen into ... i mean, they all have obvious precedents + influences, but they're pushing them + fucking w/ them + doing all that stuff people like Neu! were doing (travelling w/out a map, i guess). Anyway, my favourite Neu!alike tune this week = "i can't stay long" by Ultravox ... shit, those guys were ahead of the game, ripping off rother + dinger in 1978!
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Hunter T Wolfe 1710 posts |
May 12, 2009, 12:02
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IanB wrote: Though in this day and age if you are not good looking, or at least striking in a cartoon manner, then you are probably fucked either way. Ahem... Coldplay? Elbow? The Kaiser Chiefs? Pretty much every touted new indie band or successful middle of the road alterna-rock band of the last decade? Pug-ugly prematurely balding munts dressed from primark the lot of 'em. Neither style nor substance, but it doesn't seem to do them any harm. Striking in a cartoon manner? That'll be that Julian Cope fella. Always liked him.
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