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redbarchetta 335 posts |
May 05, 2008, 16:26
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Yes, I saw that documentary .. Meeting People Is Easy .. and I also though that they came across as deeply self-important, a bit affected. As I mentioned before, rock bands who think they're somehow 'better' or above, say, tap dancing poodles are profoundly mistaken. That's why whenever I see rock stars embracing causes or speaking out about some issue, I chuckle quietly to myself. Chris Martin is uniquely vacuous in this respect. A man who shows his deep commitment by drawing marks on his hand with a felt tip pen. Thom York speaking out on whatever cause du jour is another case in point. Also, while I'm in Radiohead rant mode, I would humbly suggest that an average Cardiacs song contains more interesting musical ideas than that band's entire back catalogue.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited May 05, 2008, 16:41
May 05, 2008, 16:40
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Surely the best rock-star-using-felt-tip-pen-as-socio-political-commentary-item was when, after Prince had accepted an award with SLAVE written on his face as part of his gripe against his record company, Dave Rowntree from Blur went up with his bandmates to collect something with "DAVE" scrawled on his cheek. Heee!
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 05, 2008, 16:59
May 05, 2008, 16:59
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redbarchetta wrote: Yes, I saw that documentary .. Meeting People Is Easy .. and I also though that they came across as deeply self-important, a bit affected. The hilarious thing is that it was a documentary that they made about themselves. So this is clearly the message they wanted to send to their fans - being in the biggest band in the world is a real drag pop kids. Being a supply teacher in Cowley or tax inspector in Banbury would obviously be so much more gratifying. Obviously.
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IanB 6761 posts |
May 05, 2008, 17:03
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redbarchetta wrote: whenever I see rock stars embracing causes or speaking out about some issue, I chuckle quietly to myself. Chris Martin is uniquely vacuous in this respect. A man who shows his deep commitment by drawing marks on his hand with a felt tip pen. Thom York speaking out on whatever cause du jour is another case in point. Better that they hold convictions than none at all but I've got more time for say an NHL player who quietly spends his spare time visiting kids on hospital wards than a rock n roller with a cause to celebrate. The world must look very different when you can inhabit a whole floor at Claridges to ease those pre show stress levels!
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rojo 433 posts |
Edited May 05, 2008, 21:01
May 05, 2008, 20:28
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I am not a great Radiohead fan but I would be more comfortable with your comparision if you had used coldplay versus Vanhalen instead. CP, more than anyband, seem to embody the essential characteristics of what is wrong with modern mainstream rock :- you know the whole concerned middleclass whinging indielite public school pop music is as valid a career as accountancy etc.
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Kid Calamity 9048 posts |
May 05, 2008, 20:35
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Fan-fuckin-tastic, Red!!! Go go go!!
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vince 1628 posts |
May 05, 2008, 21:41
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No-one will ever convince me that Van Halen were/are nothing more than vacuous cock-rock of the most tedious, 1980's kind. I make no claim that Radiohead are the saviours of the world, musically speaking but every now & again they write a song that is utterly beautiful. "Nude" being just such a song. Pretentious, precocious, self-absorbed, self-important and worst of all precious. Radiohead are all of these. But I've been in And Also the Trees for 30 years so who the feck am I to talk!
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dave clarkson 2988 posts |
May 05, 2008, 22:16
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Can't say I'm a fan and prefer Radiohead myself regardless of how serious they may take themselves. That's irrelevant - the end product (music no less) is what counts and for me, Radiohead push the boundaries slightly more than Van Halen. Have a great trip! 8)
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Dog 3000 4611 posts |
May 05, 2008, 22:25
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Funny how many people seem to have read DLR's book (it is a good read.) Have fun in New Yawk! (Currency exchange rate is pretty good these days actually. Marvel at "cheap" $6 packs of cigarettes!)
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited May 06, 2008, 11:01
May 06, 2008, 09:42
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Dog 3000 wrote: Funny how many people seem to have read DLR's book (it is a good read.) Have fun in New Yawk! (Currency exchange rate is pretty good these days actually. Marvel at "cheap" $6 packs of cigarettes!) DLR's much derided radio show had its moments too. Interesting long interviews with Rollins and the Nuge and some hilarious anti-Eddie rants. Though I can't imagine many of his listeners could have cared less about VH politics. There were one too many porn star guests on the one hand (each as dull and as irritatingly perky as the last) but on the other how many drivetime talk shows namecheck the likes of Buckminster Fuller and Wim Wenders? Not too many! DLR is a lot of things but he's not willing to dumb himself down far enough to be a talk radio icon.
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