IanB
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Edited Jun 22, 2007, 15:12
Re: Hold on!!!
Jun 22, 2007, 15:12
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Hopefully the record will have me eating my shoe like Herzog.
People retreat into faith and tribe based stockades when they are most threatened economically.
Cure the one and you almost always cure the other.
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Father Sky
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Re: Hold on!!!
Jun 22, 2007, 15:26
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I agree that when people are poor and starving this leads to unrest (or perhaps I should say when there's a large visible gap between 'rich' and 'poor'). But I'm not sure if the 'tribalism' you mention relates to cultural heritage? Surely it's possible for people to be economically happy and still healthily foster a localised culture/set of traditions? In fact, isn't being aware of your own culture and how you got here (whilst being open and friendly to other cultures) a good thing?
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Kid Calamity
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Edited Jun 22, 2007, 15:26
Re: You Gotta Problem With Me
Jun 22, 2007, 15:26
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Yeah... erm, my slogan is
SILENCE THOSE WHO OPPOSE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
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IanB
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Edited Jun 22, 2007, 18:10
Re: Hold on!!!
Jun 22, 2007, 15:32
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I am with you all the way. I think we have a terminology problem.
I am not educated in sociology (or very much of anything else for that matter) but I think of tribalism as having an us / them - we / other dynamic about it.
Nothing at all wrong with knowing your history and your heart going woooooooh at the thought of that heritage (as Celtic fans would have it) but when it becomes a fear of organic change and a fear of an imagined potential for corruption of that history and that heritage from outside forces then there is trouble ahead.
Why else do racists use the language of illness and disease when they talk about migrants? They feel it as a personal assault from within and something that subtracts from their health rather than adds to their wealth.
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IanB
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Re: You Gotta Problem With Me
Jun 22, 2007, 15:34
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Yeah and "Death to the death worshippers"!
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IanB
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Edited Jun 22, 2007, 15:45
Re: You Gotta Problem With Me
Jun 22, 2007, 15:44
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I just don't feel threatened in that way and see little evidence in British life as to why anyone should feel that threat to personal freedom from faith zealots as a real and present danger. And certainly not for anyone living in rural Wiltshire.
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Father Sky
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Edited Jun 22, 2007, 15:47
Re: Hold on!!!
Jun 22, 2007, 15:46
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Yeah, you're right!
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IanB
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Re: Hold on!!!
Jun 22, 2007, 15:51
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Oh I doubt that!
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Beebon
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Re: You Gotta Problem With Me
Jun 22, 2007, 15:56
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Wow, I'm genuinely surprised that someone was a little offended. Inguess it's what I get for rarely posting on here anymore.
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Beebon
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Re: You Gotta Problem With Me
Jun 22, 2007, 16:04
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Kid Calamity wrote: Not everyone likes everything, Beebon.
Wow that's very patronising, Kid Calamity.
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