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thesweetcheat
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Re: That's that then....
Jul 08, 2018, 13:30
Hardline leavers are already calling May a "traitor" for this proposed deal.

Several Tory MPs appear to have said they will vote against it and if necessary trigger a leadership contest. Obviously the ultra-right Rees-Mogg is being lined up as the preferred option. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44755049

Starmer has said Labour won't vote for it, calling it a fudge (although their track record of voting with May at every step so far suggests this should be taken with a pinch of salt).

In reality it pleases no-one. It would leave the UK bound by EU rules with no say in them. But everyone other than the ideological hardliners has said that "no deal" would be a catastrophe for the economy.

It is pretty clear that any Brexit will leave the UK worse off (we already are worse off, and we haven't even left yet), marginalised and with credibility shredded. No coherent plan has been presented by anyone at all, whether it be the ultras or those who would prefer to retain CU and SM membership. No tangible, measurable benefits to leaving have been articulated by anyone *at all* over the course of the two years since the vote. In fact it's quite shocking that two years on, the only arguments being proffered are still "taking back control", "will of the people" and "sovereignty", none of which have been quantified, clarified or explained any more now than they were two years ago when they emerged as populist soundbites. And still anyone asking for details of what any of these actually mean is staunchly met with the inevitable "you lost, get over it".

I agree with Goffik that there should now be a vote on the deal, but only because Parliament has proven itself to be incapable of carrying out its function as our representatives (not delegates) and doing what is best for (1) the country as a whole and (2) their constituents, at the expense of party loyalties if that is needed and their own careerist ambitions. The only positive outcome I can see from any of this is that it has shone a light on how badly broken our system of Parliamentary democracy has become.
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