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sanshee 1080 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 10:29
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Heard this morning on R4 that Kinder eggs (those little chocolate Easter eggs thingies with a little toy in) are banned in the US on health a safety grounds. And then there is this. **A five-year-old boy who shot dead his two-year-old sister in the US state of Kentucky used a gun marketed for children, authorities have said** http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22386105 And this **Toddler shoots himself dead after finding mum's handgun in her purse and playing with it** http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/toddler-shoots-himself-dead-after-5874370 Many more I'm sure. To paraphrase Obama, 'here we go again'. Great discussion on R4PM last, with more of Obama's speech and insight from former and current America correspondents. 45 high school shootings this year, and some say the response is 'more guns'. Since Dunblane gun laws were tightened and not another massacre since. WTF? |
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billding68 1016 posts |
Edited Oct 03, 2015, 14:43
Oct 03, 2015, 14:42
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sanshee wrote: Heard this morning on R4 that Kinder eggs (those little chocolate Easter eggs thingies with a little toy in) are banned in the US on health a safety grounds.
And then there is this. **A five-year-old boy who shot dead his two-year-old sister in the US state of Kentucky used a gun marketed for children, authorities have said** http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22386105 And this **Toddler shoots himself dead after finding mum's handgun in her purse and playing with it** http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/toddler-shoots-himself-dead-after-5874370 Many more I'm sure. To paraphrase Obama, 'here we go again'. Great discussion on R4PM last, with more of Obama's speech and insight from former and current America correspondents. 45 high school shootings this year, and some say the response is 'more guns'. Since Dunblane gun laws were tightened and not another massacre since. WTF? kinder eggs have been banned for YEARS! get over it its a stupid analogy. perhaps childrens swings need to be banned as well? they are about as relevant as your argument. http://www.people.com/article/teen-falls-100-feet-death-slipping-swing-chirstian-camp or perhaps these?Just as relevant http://articles.latimes.com/1988-06-28/local/me-4854_1_plastic-bag or these... http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/health/california-peanut-allergy-death/index.html Here we go again indeed
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laresident 861 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 15:13
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I liked Obama's show of futility. Guns in America and probably in other parts of the world where they are freely available, give a feeling of strength and power. Enforced in movies and games, part of a "healthy" adolescence and even virility in grown men. When the individual has serious issues, it's bound to be a disaster. The closest thing to it in Britain I can think of, is pressure to abuse alcohol and driving fast and recklessly. Freud would have field day.
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sanshee 1080 posts |
Edited Oct 03, 2015, 15:49
Oct 03, 2015, 15:43
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I wouldn't know how America rates Obama 'domestically' but IMO and from what we get to see of him over here he is one of the most outspoken and genuine president I've seen. In fact must be 'the most'. I do believe he would like to have seen Guantanamo closed but seems on some issues there are other forces make him (or any president) anything but 'in charge'. I don't know if I'm wrong there, just seems that way. Clips from his visit to Kenya in which he slammed the practice of FGM came across as truly rousing and genuine. We don't hear that sort of thing that often. Well we are learning in the UK that we say we cry out for 'honest politicians' then when one comes along we don't know what to about it. Especially the bloody creeps around them finding all that honesty a bit 'weird'.
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billding68 1016 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 16:21
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sanshee wrote: I wouldn't know how America rates Obama 'domestically' but IMO and from what we get to see of him over here he is one of the most outspoken and genuine president I've seen. In fact must be 'the most'. I do believe he would like to have seen Guantanamo closed but seems on some issues there are other forces make him (or any president) anything but 'in charge'. I don't know if I'm wrong there, just seems that way. Clips from his visit to Kenya in which he slammed the practice of FGM came across as truly rousing and genuine. We don't hear that sort of thing that often. Well we are learning in the UK that we say we cry out for 'honest politicians' then when one comes along we don't know what to about it. Especially the bloody creeps around them finding all that honesty a bit 'weird'. Really? you don't know how most people feel about Obama in the U.S.? http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/americas-fed-obama-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-poll-n173271 in a word...Yikes!
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laresident 861 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 16:34
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I actually feel quite proud to have him as a president. Shows the world that US politics can be intelligent and not ruled entirely by the dollar. He is popular in the part of town I live in and I suspect generally in California. We must not forget what a catastrophe he inherited and he has had huge resistance to his policies. I hope most would agree that the country is in a better state now. He has my sympathies this morning, having to apologize for the disastrous ineptitude of bombing a hospital.
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laresident 861 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 16:54
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No hope this election. Just darkness.
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billding68 1016 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 17:16
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he will go down in history as a two term jimmy carter, I don't think either had a clue of what they were in for going in and even less on the way out. Bush was just awful, a liar and a thief Obama on the other hand just clueless. I think Hilary will do a better job if she's elected but being a woman is a huge obstacle in American politics especially at that level.
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Robot Emperor 762 posts |
Edited Oct 03, 2015, 17:29
Oct 03, 2015, 17:28
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billding68 wrote: kinder eggs have been banned for YEARS! get over it its a stupid analogy. perhaps childrens swings need to be banned as well? they are about as relevant as your argument. http://www.people.com/article/teen-falls-100-feet-death-slipping-swing-chirstian-camp or perhaps these?Just as relevant http://articles.latimes.com/1988-06-28/local/me-4854_1_plastic-bag or these... http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/health/california-peanut-allergy-death/index.html Here we go again indeed. Your going to have to enlighten me why the orinal post was so self evidently stupid. I would be surprised if the deaths caused with intent by swings or kinder eggs combined for the last 1000 years have killed as many people as guns in America this year. Don't think it was really an analogy being drawn either. We are just astonished at the contrast. Pleased I live in a country where it is guns that are banned and Kinder eggs are legal. To clarify - that is not an analogy.
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laresident 861 posts |
Oct 03, 2015, 17:28
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I have found Hillary's political baggage a little worrying in the past but I have to agree with you. At least she knows what she is getting into.
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