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thispoison 253 posts |
Sep 27, 2015, 17:04
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Oh dear, the great Socialist saviour proves he's just another "SNP-bad" Labour liar. Gordon Brown Jim Murphy Kezia Dugdale, the BBC (and Sanshee) must be so proud and happy. Why would I want to believe a word he says on ANYTHING after this? Really hoped he was better than this. Very disappointing: http://wingsoverscotland.com/advice-for-jeremy-corbyn/#more-75981 |
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sanshee 1080 posts |
Sep 27, 2015, 18:36
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**The assistant general secretary of the Scottish TUC, Stephen Boyd, said this week he was “absolutely sure that a strong case could be argued with the European Commission that these are lifeline service which do not need to go out to tender”.** http://www.whfp.com/2015/02/08/trade-union-warns-of-agenda-to-privatise-calmac/
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thispoison 253 posts |
Edited Sep 28, 2015, 00:52
Sep 28, 2015, 00:30
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sanshee wrote: **The assistant general secretary of the Scottish TUC, Stephen Boyd, said this week he was “absolutely sure that a strong case could be argued with the European Commission that these are lifeline service which do not need to go out to tender”.** http://www.whfp.com/2015/02/08/trade-union-warns-of-agenda-to-privatise-calmac/ Another SLAB lie. Just 'cos he says it, don't make it so. Ironically the roles were reversed in 2005 when LABOUR first put the contract out to tender. Nothings changed with regard to EU rules since then, only the respective positions of Labour and the SNP. Labour, however, are able to rely on their MSM cronies to put forward their false and hypocrital position without question. What they can't seem to do anymore, however, is persuade the Scottish electorate to believe their lies. Most people are now a lot wiser when it comes to Scottish Labour, and Media attacks on the SNP. (Thanks, in this regard go particularly to Nick Robinson, Gordon Brown, & Alistairs' Darling & Carmichael). http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-truth-about-calmac-short-version/ No argument on Corbyn's OTHER lies then? |
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 07:51
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thispoison wrote: Oh dear, the great Socialist saviour proves he's just another "SNP-bad" Labour liar. Gordon Brown Jim Murphy Kezia Dugdale, the BBC (and Sanshee) must be so proud and happy. Why would I want to believe a word he says on ANYTHING after this? Really hoped he was better than this. Very disappointing: http://wingsoverscotland.com/advice-for-jeremy-corbyn/#more-75981 Is there ANY party that speaks the truth? They are all specialists is lying. It's what they do :-)
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IanB 6761 posts |
Edited Sep 28, 2015, 09:59
Sep 28, 2015, 09:57
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As a instinctual internationalist I struggle with the very idea of nationalism as a political movement. My mind is open I just don't understand the argument or what the appeal is beyond tribalism and an arbitrary and wholly nostalgic sense of what constitutes a nation state. Should we turn the clock back to 1708 for everyone in Europe and return Greece to Venetian rule, turn a chunk of Holland over to Spain and send the rest of the Balkans into the arms of Turkey? 300 years on is there really any difference? |
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 12:03
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IanB wrote: As a instinctual internationalist I struggle with the very idea of nationalism as a political movement. My mind is open I just don't understand the argument or what the appeal is beyond tribalism and an arbitrary and wholly nostalgic sense of what constitutes a nation state. Should we turn the clock back to 1708 for everyone in Europe and return Greece to Venetian rule, turn a chunk of Holland over to Spain and send the rest of the Balkans into the arms of Turkey? 300 years on is there really any difference? Why should we suffer from a Govt and unionist parties that don't care? Its lies lies and more lies. I'd hoped and expected more from Corbyn but in the end he fell down at the first hurdle. As for nationalism I don't believe in that but I do believe in independence and Scotlands right to care for the disadvantaged/elderly/refugees/schools/health and so on. Turn the clock back 300 years if you want, doesn't make sense to me. We are looking forwards to creating a better Scotland, getting rid of sectarianism (the Vote No dream of keeping this going has had its day), taking on the racists, proper care for the elderly/disabled, better education etc etc. Maybe it is idealism but at least it's a start. It's wonderful that many people south of the border send letters/emails to the Scottish MPs asking for help with their concerns. No reason for that to stop if we are independent. |
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Lawrence 9547 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 12:04
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| Personally I don't have a positive view of any kind of nationalism. I think it's just pretty window-dressing disguising bigotry. | |||
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 12:06
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It is sadly another lie. These Trade Union guys probably sit behind their desks probably without a clue where any of these places at which these ferries dock. But they do like nuclear weapons :-(
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Lawrence 9547 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 12:07
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| I would hope that they would take on racists anyways. But I'm not so hopeful when there's so much hatred going on in Eastern Europe in the guise of Nationalism. | |||
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Sep 28, 2015, 12:11
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Lawrence wrote: I would hope that they would take on racists anyways. But I'm not so hopeful when there's so much hatred going on in Eastern Europe in the guise of Nationalism. I've seen a lot of that in my travels and we don't see much of it here except from BNP/Britain First/SDL etc. Its scary the Eastern European stuff and in Finland the other day it wasn't very clever also. |
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