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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:13
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"But no sky god's followers should have the privilege to trump the way a country is run." But they form a sufficiently weighty voting lobby to affect the way the US and therefore the world is run. How terrible is that?
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Jane 3024 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:16
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handofdave wrote: SOME religious convictions are beautiful (Brotherly love, compassion, taking a stand against evil in the form of human bondage, etc) Yes, but these are NOT unique to organised religions. Religions do not have a monopoly on kindness and compassion. Much of the kindness and compassion central to the christian faith comes from classical (pre-christian) philosophy anyway.
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Jane 3024 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:18
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handofdave wrote: Should we be 'at war' with religion AS A WHOLE? No. That's a dismally extremist position and one I can not respect, as it only replaces absolutist belief in God with absolutist disbelief in God. Both camps are merely reacting TO EACH OTHER- neither is correct. Precisely! Which is where secularism comes in so handy. http://www.secularism.org.uk/
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Jane 3024 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:24
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It's appalling and why i am such an ardent secularist.
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Jane 3024 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:26
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Enter the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
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moss 2897 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 18:51
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Jane wrote: Enter the Flying Spaghetti Monster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster Which of course takes us back to Russell's 'teapot' flying around in space ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
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Vybik Jon 7717 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 19:14
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It does and either has as much validity as any sky god.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 19:18
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Ah Russell. In fact, Mmmmm Russell! as Homer might say. I reckon those monkeys in the Kansas Christian Board of Education would be serving the kids better if they got them to read him ten minutes a day instead of the Skyman crap. Grrrr!
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Merrick 2148 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 22:04
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handofdave wrote: Not all believe in the literal version of Genesis. Which literal version of Genesis do they believe in, I wonder? Douglas Rushkoff observes: =============== http://www.rushkoff.com/2006/05/testament-my-testament.php The fact that the Bible has two versions of creation should not be a surprise to anyone who takes the time to read the first page or two of any standard Bible text. This is not some convoluted DaVinci Code fictional deconstruction of non-existent material. I'm talking normal, look-at-the-words-and-glean-their-most-basic-meaning stuff, here. Genesis, Chapter 1, verse 27, says that God created Man and Woman together, after making all the animals. Genesis, Chapter 2, verse 7, has God creating Man before the plants and the animals. Adam walks around a while, lonely. Then Woman is created out of Adam's rib in verse 22. That's right: two different creation stories.
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handofdave 3515 posts |
Mar 10, 2008, 23:04
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Merrick wrote: Genesis, Chapter 1, verse 27, says that God created Man and Woman together, after making all the animals. Genesis, Chapter 2, verse 7, has God creating Man before the plants and the animals. Adam walks around a while, lonely. Then Woman is created out of Adam's rib in verse 22. That's right: two different creation stories. The first woman, according to the older Hebraic mythology, was Lilith. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith Edited out by the Roman Catholic church, back when they were compiling their take on things.
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