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Lawrence 9547 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 12:53
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It's just that the country has alot of hateful bastards!
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Lawrence 9547 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 12:54
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No fuckin' way!
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Lord Lucan 2702 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 13:23
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As a jiz-eating bitch even I find that idea disgusting! ;-)
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Ether 104 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 14:12
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Gosh, what are Michael Moore and the letter-writing Guardian readers going to do now?
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PMM 3155 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 14:13
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Continue making films and writing to the Guardian I suppose.
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MonkeyBoy 1008 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 14:19
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Yep Bush has done it and I had a feeling he was. So much infact that I was in bed before the News Night election special. So I didn't get to see a Manic Peter Snow projecting the tit bits of meaningful election data into hard to understand computer generated models of the anticipated result. Quite how the election analyst cum mad scientist Snow can get get so excited about an election between Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dummer is beyond me. Maybe the money is good! Anyway Tweedle Dummer won and I am just that little bit more scared (probabily won't sleep so well tonight). Bush is that little bit more insane and a little less clever, but is a lot more charasmatic and the average American Joe is gonna love him. Quite who the Liberal elite are I don't know (do they secretly rule the world?) but their man ain't got in. There are a few things that have made me laugh this morning. The description of Kerry as anti-war is farcical as all he had was minor criticisms on the actual conduct of the war. When any true Bolshevik would have clearly presented a revolutionary defeatist position. Don't take me entirely serious on the last comment and don't call the Doctor, but there was no anti-war candidate. Any differences they had on the economy were merely cosmetic and as we pick the bones of this contest the only real difference was on abortion were Kerry held a reasonably sound liberal position were as Bush and his right wing evangelical cronies put forward stuff that would keep the Pope happy. I am not sure what the Libertarians (loony anarcho capitalists) around the Republicans thought of this social issue (as they always bang on about choice) but they would have kept quite as long as Bush will further increase inequality and increase profits (or should I say offer tax breaks). I have heard people clutching at straws this morning as Kerry still has some chance with the electoral college in Ohio. Get real! Bush has won the popular vote. This isn't 2000 where Gore won the popular vote and in the end it turned out also narrowly won Florida. Yes depressing as it America have chosen their man and most of them probabily thought that in a scrap they would rather have Bush with them than Kerry. Another thing which has made me laugh is talk of a nation divided. Divided along what lines exactly? You mean on minor issues don't you? Or was the country just divided between a sociopathic chimp like Bush and a Frankenstein's Monster like Kerry. Other bollocks I have heard this morning is some barely able news team putting together something on the latest Osama Bin Laden video work out and how this has backfired on him with the election of Bush. Something tells me (and it might be the faculty of intuition, you newsroom shite talkers) that this is what Osama wanted. A more polarised situation will mean more recruits for Al Qeda and Osama has his enemy with horns and tails and Bush has his enemy with horns and tails and my isn't the world a safer place. This result does not mean that Bush has out-witted Osama and the day Bush does manage to outwit Bin Laden is the day I scream 'Jihad'. Is it me or is Al Qeda becoming more and more like The Mysterons from Captain Scarlet with their war of nerves. Bush is definitely indestructable and the sinister Mysteron plot of getting their soul-less automaton Captain Black (John Kerry) into the job as head of Spectrum has been thrawted. And what is the point of this rambling ranting post I hear you say? Well if you know any Americans tell them the next time they have an election make sure there is a proper alternative and not just two different personalities who both happen to be multi-millionaires from priviliged backgrounds.
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PMM 3155 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 14:34
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There wont be any more elections :o)
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dave clarkson 2988 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 15:16
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"Another thing which has made me laugh is talk of a nation divided. Divided along what lines exactly? You mean on minor issues don't you? Or was the country just divided between a sociopathic chimp like Bush and a Frankenstein's Monster like Kerry" ....it appears by looking at a map of the US and all the states that kerry won mainly the coastal and more cosmopoiltan and forward looking parts of america whereas Bush has gained all the middle american votes. Whether this counts as a divide I don't know but is indicative of one IMO. Kerry was the only (lightweight) choice to the 'face' of Bush and his regime. He's more or less the same but by voting him in would have opened the doors slightly and got rid of the symbolism attached to Bush throughout the world. Many people in the east think Bush is the antichrist. That should be obvious to anyone by now. Do you believe anyone that left wing is going to be voted in the US? It will never happen IMO (I'm a realist not an idealist). A lot of people over there don't take time out to understand or educate themselves in what's going on in the rest of the world.....if they did, then that's when the better parties would stand a chance.
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Lugia 970 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 15:50
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Hateful, stupid, and gullible, you mean.
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Lugia 970 posts |
Nov 03, 2004, 16:03
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It's a disaster, IMHO. And really, it's more than the politicians over here that are to blame. The news media are no less complicit, inasmuch as they feel that a 'tilt' toward Bush protects their fiscal interests better than a Democratic administration. So since they were spending so much time acting as Dubya's bully pulpit, people who don't know better have been essentially duped into that line of thinking while at the same time, they're getting poorer and losing civil liberties, all because they've been taught to 'believe the news'. There's a very good book that looks at what's going on here called "What's the Matter With Kansas?". In that, the author examines how the state is hemorrhaging money, jobs, family farms, and so on while at the same time rabidly voting for the Republicans who're working for the major financial firms, megacorps, and big ag firms that're causing all the damage. The rightwingers use 'morality' as a red rag to wave in the face of the ignorant in order to get them to do what they want, while at the same time lifting their wallets with the hand not doing the waving. Most ironic, it's places such as Kansas that, back in the early part of the 20th century, were the cradle of the American progressive movement. I am horrified at what is happening to my country. The nation I am living in is not the one that I was raised in, quite literally. And I fear that if things fall even further down this bizarre slope that I and those I live with will have to leave the land of our birth in order to guarantee our sanity, if not our safety.
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