stray
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 00:15
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Yep, but blame the curators who like it that way. Or the colleges that fuck up the minds of our artists, making them all go to get a job in advertising.
If you can rationalise, and intellectualise your work succesfully then curators can justify it, and will feel safe showing it (cos the old pony you tell them they can confidently tell to other people), so you get space. But, if your work is so mind boggingly OMFG! then you'll get space and never have to justify it. See Maurizio Cattelan or the Chapman Bros.
I have to defend some of the conceptual movement here. No art is empty. It's just that some of it isn't actually art, in fact some of it isn't even decent craft. {Craft != Art} after all.
Hate to be an arse, but they have a point, if one spectator doesn't 'get it' it doesn't invalidate the work. What does is the over pressing need to justify some work over other work. A lot of early conceptual theory and art had to be gone through, in order to set boundaries. Problem is, it didn't, there are no boundaries. There are no rules. this is the way it should be.
It's the artists responsibility to do something worthwhile, and the spectators responsibility to say 'thats shite that'. It's emperors new clothes shit, if we all did like the little kid and screamed 'he's naked' then mebbe curators and the system will force Artists to raise their game. And shut the door to the fake artists
'But Beuys said I'm an artist too..'
'No. you're not. Get a proper job'
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MonkeyBoy
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 00:29
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Craft != Art. That's pretty much what Old William Morris used to say. As well as Art = objects NOT commodities.
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stray
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 00:38
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heh. exactly. Ignore me, I'm not making much sense today , soz, my head is all over the shop today. Buzzing for the fun and games tomorrow. Need sleep.
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anthonyqkiernan
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 10:00
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>>Hate to be an arse
*ahem*
;-D
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stray
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 10:27
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oi! I'm only an arse to the righteous fuckwits that deserve it yer git ;P
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anthonyqkiernan
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Re: po-mo
Nov 20, 2003, 12:06
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It wasn't the bing an arse, it was the hating to do so.
;o}
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morfe
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Erratum
Nov 21, 2003, 02:09
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should have read:
"Ah, so she is (vicariously) enjoying blowing people up because 'lunatics' enjoy blowing people up?"
Yes well. I'm getting old ;-)
ONWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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