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Dog in fog 317 posts |
Jan 08, 2017, 00:53
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: Dog in fog wrote: Hi tjj, I really have no knowledge about the positioning of sites being linked to astronomical phenomena. All I know is, it was ruddy fantastic! The sense of history and mystery was palpable, enhanced a thousandfold by the skies and surroundings. Sounds like a great experience. I loved Orkney, will definitely be going back. Different, but the same in many ways, I went up to Castlerigg in (very) thick fog one night a couple of years ago and I will never forget that experience. Complete silence and a grey shroud over everything. It was both frightening and thrilling, the sense of there being 'something' (I don't know what) there was so strong, and together with the knowledge, or imaginings of what took place there, it got all bit much! I'll bet it did! I would have LOVED that, but not alone! I was free to wander around the Ring of Brodgar in the darkness with the knowledge that my friend and fellow hostel folk were just over the heather!
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CARL 511 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 13:19
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I enjoyed episode 2 although not as much as the first episode. It had a bit of a 'filler' feel to it although I thought the boat making experiment was very interesting. Hopefully the 3rd episode will finish on a high! Still the best programme on TV at the moment! :)
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 13:46
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Who is the fair haired bloke? He did the rock stack thing on last weeks and built the boat in this weeks. He said that if they manage to sail across the pentland firth in that boat that it would "fill a gap in the archaeological record". He actually said those words. What a twonk. Who is editing this program, mickey fucking mouse?
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tomatoman 118 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 13:47
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Mixed feelings about some of the content of episode 2. I personally hope that we've heard the last from Andy Torbet, although I doubt it.........typical of his type in contributing a lot less than he seems to believe. BUT, all credit to the Orkney teams who actually built the coracle-boat AND rowed it across the Firth in what were, mercifully, benign conditions. The possible interpretation of the co-placement of human and non-human remains was intriguing. So........do you think the "multi-skilled" team concept works, or not?
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drewbhoy 2559 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 13:48
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CARL wrote: I enjoyed episode 2 although not as much as the first episode. It had a bit of a 'filler' feel to it although I thought the boat making experiment was very interesting. Hopefully the 3rd episode will finish on a high! Still the best programme on TV at the moment! :) Yup loads of filler. The boat making and sailing was very good as was the whales and the Tomb Of Eagles. One bone found at the Ness is a leap of faith to compare it with the Tomb Of Eagles but maybe episode 3 will have more to say on the matter.
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drewbhoy 2559 posts |
Edited Jan 10, 2017, 14:05
Jan 10, 2017, 14:04
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tomatoman wrote: Mixed feelings about some of the content of episode 2. I personally hope that we've heard the last from Andy Torbet, although I doubt it.........typical of his type in contributing a lot less than he seems to believe. BUT, all credit to the Orkney teams who actually built the coracle-boat AND rowed it across the Firth in what were, mercifully, benign conditions. The possible interpretation of the co-placement of human and non-human remains was intriguing. So........do you think the "multi-skilled" team concept works, or not? Agree with most of that. Replace Torbet with Jago Cooper and it would be excellent. Much much more of Doug Allan and it would be even better.
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tjj 3606 posts |
Edited Jan 10, 2017, 18:03
Jan 10, 2017, 18:02
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I read this on the FP group Prehistoric Explorers Club - but it was originally posted by The Scottish Media Lab. It throws up some interesting points which I've put in italics: "Part 2 of Brodgar was a lot of fun and generally well done. Seems some are objecting to some of the programme's comments, In short: You could be left with the impression Ness of Brodgar started with developments on Orkney. Nope the Camster Cairns in Caithness are earlier and we have tombs/ chambers of related but less sophisticated design advancing up the West Coast over centuries beforehand. Yeah there are standing stones elsewhere - the megalithic arrives from Europe where it likely meets already fairly advanced lithic cultures. It's the scale/ proliferation that 'advances' out of Orkney, which forms a fairly broad cultural horizon. These developments don't take place in the context of nation states and don't involve invasions or political take overs. Instead ideas and implements are passed on or traded, then developed or forked along quite different lines. E.g. for all the connections and shared ideas we are finding between Brodgar and the Stonehenge region there are considerable regional differences - most obviously we have no sign of a massive, habitable complex like that found at Ness of Brodgar. The suggestion in the show that the unusual and fascinating burials in the Tomb of Eagles may have in some way allocated eagle bones or talons to individuals within a collective grave . . . At present what we appear to have is an Orcadian social structure that is collectively tied to a widespread ritual landscape while developing some unfamiliar/ unconventional social hierarchies..." The comment goes on quite a bit longer and I suppose I should really be commenting on FB but it often seems a bit pointless. The writer says, while drawing comparisons with Stonehenge, no sign of a massive habitable complex like the one at the Ness of Brodgar has been found near Stonehenge. To me it seems that although Stonehenge is comprised of sarsens and bluestones any associated structures would probably have been built in timber and may well have disappeared without trace. Stone was used on Orkney because timber wasn't available.
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spencer 3071 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 20:26
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Having had my head full of other things of late I somehow seem to not have read this topic, and only became aware of the programme when a customer started praising it this afternoon..dang, being iPlayerless I've missed any telly screenings of the first part for now - doubtless a repeat will follow at some point - but at least there'll be a late night showing of the one just gone. Her rhapsodising about what she'd seen is enough to make me watch on its own.
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thelonious 330 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 20:53
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Looks like episode 1 is reshown on 21st Jan 02:55 BBC 2
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Jan 10, 2017, 23:03
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Dog in fog wrote: In the artist's mausoleum I found myself in on Christmas Day in Oslo, of course I marvelled that a person or people with knowledge of physics and acoustics had built a place with a 10 second reverb effect! tiompan wrote: Good ole Emanuel ,and the architect was also the artist . I am blown away with this weird coincidence and totally obscure synchronicity. I run a wee Music Tech Group at lunchtimes at the school I work... On Sunday last I grabbed some lovely audio samples from the Vigeland Mausoleum and some exceptionally lengthy echoes from the world's longest echo at Inchindown here in Scotland. We were messing with some Burns spoken word and these sounds and effects today. http://www.freesound.org/people/acs272/sounds/250004/ http://www.freesound.org/people/acs272/sounds/214220/ I'm scared to look outside just now in case a comet flies over. How strangely strange.
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