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billding68 wrote: Howburn Digger wrote: The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they!
Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome!
To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process.
The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage!
The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear.
Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village.
Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing.
1st half a million dead is not accurate (not that it is the issue here and that's not my point at all) But lets just fucking give every godamn fucker as pass to do what they want as everyone has been wronged at one time or another. To imply that this sort of action is an acceptable response is the same as condoning it. To which I say society as a whole is lost if most think along your lines. These are not the civilians of Iraq destroying these artifacts its the extreme Islamic MoFo's who want to wipe the history that doesn't jive with their perverted beliefs off the map. think 1st respond 2nd.
I've read both these posts (and Gladman's) with a very heavy heart. Planet Earth is in deep crisis, brought about by one species alone - homo sapiens. We can't turn the clock back and undo the damage done by the West as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11 or the historical events leading up to it. Most of us felt the world as we knew it (in the West anyway) changed that day. Hell has been unleashed and there are very few places left to run.
Looks like spring outside here in Wiltshire, England. Off out to look at some primroses and daffodils. If I'm very lucky may spot that green woodpecker again. That's all that's left really, and perhaps why so many people look to Nature, our precious stone circles and other ancient sites. The future of our world is too grim to contemplate for long ... for many reasons.
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